ZL1 Camaro... 7:41 at the 'ring

[DBK]

According to the list, the out-of-production Viper ACR is now on top, and that was run by a tiny group of people with virtually no budget using two cars supplied by Bernie Katz from the dealer he was working at. Not exactly a big budget operation. And they dropped 10 seconds off the last time the cars were there looking for a number.

Who said it's not demanding and challenging? Though if VIR is irrelevant, why did GM spend a bunch of time there with the ZL1?

To talk assumptions about a car that not only hasn't run it yet...

I'm sorry, who is it that's assuming?

p.s, like I said, I'm not saying the car isn't super fast and that's not an impressive time. I just find the Ring gamesmanship to be futile. No matter what, if you go to a place like VIR, the course is going to be the same. You can run a car to death there and chances are, you'll get a car to go as fast as it can possible go, and then you might better it on some other day by a tenth or two. People go to the Ring, they get a number, someone else gets a better number, they go back with the same car and drop 8 seconds.

 

[WhiteHawk]

I'm sorry, who is it that's assuming?

I think he is talking about this.

Same day, same driver, GT500 will beat ZL1.

 

[DBK]

I think he is talking about this.

Well, we know both cars have run at VIR.

That's all I have to say about that.

 

[WhiteHawk]

Well, we know both cars have run at VIR.

That's all I have to say about that.

It is just fun to watch your bitterness towards GM manifest itself in non-bankruptcy topics.

-Geoff

 

[DBK]

You're clearly missing the point on that last one.

 

[WhiteHawk]

You're clearly missing the point on that last one.

I didn't miss it, I just put it in the circular file on the floor where I put all the BS.

-Geoff

 

[robvas]

I'd like to see C&D run it through the lightning lap

 

[RICE EATER]

you could argue the point of its not fair because its a diff day..weather driver..blabla..about anything..sooo basicly a GM or anyone shouldnt post or be proud of any number about anything performance wise in your mind...well cant post HP numbers could it could be on a diff dyno...should post 0 to 60 times because the weather might be better one day or the other...and NOWAY should they ever post a 1/4time because they got the left lane and the mustang got the right lane..LOL we should just argue about which cars faster over the internet with no facts to go by, and especialy about vechiles that arnt even out yet. COME ON REALLY!?!??

the fact is gm is pushing there performace divsion HARD!! the pushing there racing program just as hard.and using what they learn to place that in the real world cars...they going back in to indy car this next session to develop a turbo 6 banger im sure to try to kick the socks off the ecoboost

i guess ford building the cobra jet must be stupid too.lol..i cant wait to see the camaros new drag pack setup thats in the works

I LOVE the fact that with the economy the way it is the gm has found a way to push performance anyway they can and start making the big supercars knee's shake...and if posting some times around the ring help GREAT!! if not its alteast entertaining to me.

i hope u NEVER watch topgear for there track compairsions..dry days..wet days ..in the actual rain..must totaly freak you out..i bet u scream at the tv ITS NOT FAIR!!!!...hahah

 

[DBK]

I didn't miss it, I just put it in the circular file on the floor where I put all the BS.

Well then let's put a couple bucks on it.

 

[Billydroveit]

LOL@This thread.....


Well said Rice Eater.

 

[RyeLou]

I don't have an issue with everyone running at the Ring. Fact of the matter is, 99% of us could take the same car over there and post a time a full minute slower than what they're recording, assuming we don't put it in the wall all together. It does build a certain amount of hype over who has a faster car, but once you modify them or put someone else in the drivers seat, who really cares? That Ranger guy can run times in his stock Z06 cars that are considerably below what others get. It doesn't make the numbers wrong...just lets you know what it's capable of.

 

[4 cam tbird]

I'd like to see C&D run it through the lightning lap

This is why anyone that would call VIR irrelevant is a fool. GM definitely takes the Lightning Lap competition every bit as seriously as Ring times, probably more so.

 

[WhiteHawk]

Well then let's put a couple bucks on it.

I will get much more satisfaction ttt'ing this thread than I ever could by taking your money. So Ford is out 2013, GM is 2012.5. We should see GT500 track times on the ring in six months? I can't wait!

-Geoff

 

[DBK]

Hey, I am all for you being the one that has to TTT this thread if that's the bet. :lol:

 

[WhiteHawk]

Sounds like a bet to me. Loser eats crow in this thread.

-Geoff

 

[DBK]

Perfect. :sagrin:

 

[RICE EATER]

I will get much more satisfaction ttt'ing this thread than I ever could by taking your money. So Ford is out 2013, GM is 2012.5. We should see GT500 track times on the ring in six months? I can't wait!

-Geoff

you think so?? doesnt seem like ford does much there..atleast on that list the only time i see listed is once for the ford gt.

 

[DBK]

you think so?? doesnt seem like ford does much there..atleast on that list the only time i see listed is once for the ford gt.

Ford never ran a Ford GT there. That was a magazine.

Ford tests at Nurburgring just like everyone else. They just don't put nearly the effort into promoting and marketing it.

 

[DetroitStyle]

DBK, you sound like Supra Paul and his snow tires.... excuses, excuses. I suppose it's impossible for you to just sit back and say "Well done with this one GM." You're just a butthurt Ford fanboi.

 

[Golden]

As a diehard Camaro fan in general...this is awesome news to me. I love competition.