Do Not Deal With Brad O'Hara/oharaautomotive

[nitrouspete]

actually, ive only met brad 3 times when i bought used parts from him. its more from a stand point of what my opinion was on buying used parts first. once my name got kicked around shit talking started about me, it became more personal to stay in it till the end now since people wanna run their mouth because my opinion on buying used broken race car parts then coming back at them like they owe you for taking a risk on them is different then yours. your seem to know alot of facts so i figured id kick a few around i heard too was all.

 

[PaxNovi 5.0]

big, i totally understand where your coming from. thank you for speaking very civil to me and respecting where im coming from. it really means alot and shows your personality. from what i heard through the grape vine though is instead of speaking with brad civily from the start, pax came at brad with threats of doing this if he dident meet his demands. this is why i believe brad was on the defense. just hear say though...no one will probably ever know.

No. I called him and tried to seek a civil solution. Then he laughed at me over the phone and might as well have told me to get fucked. I don't take well to being laughed at in that manner. At that point I told him we'll let MM sort it out.

 

[nitrouspete]

dont gotta get butt hurt Smooth. i don't see where im shady cuz my opinion is different then yours.

 

[smooth]

actually, ive only met brad 3 times when i bought used parts from him. its more from a stand point of what my opinion was on buying used parts first. once my name got kicked around shit talking started about me, it became more personal to stay in it till the end now since people wanna run their mouth because my opinion on buying used broken race car parts then coming back at them like they owe you for taking a risk on them is different then yours. your seem to know alot of facts so i figured id kick a few around i heard too was all.

Yea I do know a lot of the facts, PaxNovi is a friend that I met through Motown I sold him a car years ago for a great deal, never had a problem with the car because it was exactly as I described. Allthrottle is also a friend I met through Motown, he was also screwed over by Brad on a transmission.

I've bought and sold many cars, parts on this website and made a lot of good friends that I TRUST

 

[smooth]

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dont gotta get butt hurt Smooth. i don't see where im shady cuz my opinion is different then yours.

I'm not butt hurt, I sign my negative feedback cause I'm not a bitch

 

[nitrouspete]

I'm not butt hurt, I sign my negative feedback cause I'm not a bitch

+1 i respect that.

 

[MarkVIII93]

Can you give negative feedback in person? You guys act like mm is full of saints. Yeah it's a close nit car group, but there's people in the world who would stab a blood relative or close friend in the back... It's going a little too far by personally attacking Pete because of his opinion... IMO... Or am I allowed to have one...?


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[chunkybs]

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dont gotta get butt hurt Smooth. i don't see where im shady cuz my opinion is different then yours.

because you think doing shady things is acceptable. it's you're opinion that it's OK to misrepresent a part in order to sell it, most people don't agree with that and there for have the opinion that you are shady. seems pretty clear to me, you've explained your opinion and we've formed ours. you arguing isn't going to make smooth want to buy stuff from you lol

 

[ReiKo]

Pete you know what really makes it stand out that he knew the heads were fucked?

 

[Tin]

Can you give negative feedback in person? You guys act like mm is full of saints. Yeah it's a close nit car group, but there's people in the world who would stab a blood relative or close friend in the back... It's going a little too far by personally attacking Pete because of his opinion... IMO... Or am I allowed to have one...?

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, you included. People are attacking Pete because they don't believe his mentality fits the mold here. I understand what Pete is saying, that a deal is a deal. The fact of the matter is, you don't shit where you eat. The seller could've saved his reputation by taking the heads back, issuing a refund for only the heads, shake hands, and issue an apology. None of that happened here. A guy is risking his reputation over $1100, which will probably end up costing him much more in the long run. It's just a crappy situation all around. I would never in a million years knowingly sell somebody a defective product, on MM or Criagslist for that matter. What you see is what you get, and I will make you aware of any issues that need to be addressed in the listing of the item for sale. If something sticks out to the buyer that I didn't catch, that is up to me to remedy and make it right. Nothing like that happened here. When you go the extra mile to ensure a smooth transaction, that says a lot about your character. That makes people want to work with you. If you magically disappear and don't try to make it right, that says even more.

 

[black88coupe]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, you included. People are attacking Pete because they don't believe his mentality fits the mold here. I understand what Pete is saying, that a deal is a deal. The fact of the matter is, you don't shit where you eat. The seller could've saved his reputation by taking the heads back, issuing a refund for only the heads, shake hands, and issue an apology. None of that happened here. A guy is risking his reputation over $1100, which will probably end up costing him much more in the long run. It's just a crappy situation all around. I would never in a million years knowingly sell somebody a defective product, on MM or Criagslist for that matter. What you see is what you get, and I will make you aware of any issues that need to be addressed in the listing of the item for sale. If something sticks out to the buyer that I didn't catch, that is up to me to remedy and make it right. Nothing like that happened here. When you go the extra mile to ensure a smooth transaction, that says a lot about your character. That makes people want to work with you. If you magically disappear and don't try to make it right, that says even more.

I can't think of anything that needs to be added to this post. +1

 

[Tin]

I can't think of anything that needs to be added to this post. +1

Stop, collaborate and listen? :lol:

 

[91trunk]

I've stayed quiet for most of this, but I can tell you as a club member, sponsor and mod I would be refunding $$$ just to keep my good name and conscience clear. I've bought and sold a TON of parts on MM before and after I was a sponsor. I also sell a lot of club members and their family vehicles. I will bend over backwards to make a customer happy, it's not only my business reputation, but it's also my family's reputation. I can tell you $1100 is not worth the negative attention this thread has created.

That's just my .02 and these days .02 isn't even worth it.

 

[mrvids]

I heard Trunk will even bend forward to make a customer happy.

 

[raroz28]

nah, they can ban me if they want...ill keep my own opinion.

Pete, you keep reciting this as if it means something. The fact is, everybody has an opinion. Westboro baptists, KKK members, Al Quaeda, etc. That doesn't mean that their opinion isn't stupid, immoral, or just flat out wrong.

If I came on here and said it was my opinion that a woman's rape was justified solely because of what she was wearing, yes it would be my opinion, yes I could have it, but if I'm going to be vocal about it, I need to be prepared to have the stupidity of my opinion called out, just as your opinion is right now by everybody in light of all of the evidence against Brad.

The fact that it's just your opinion does not make your argument anymore sound. If anything it weakens it because it's all you keep falling back on.

"It's my opinion."
"You shouldn't buy used auto parts."
"They were sold as is."

All extremely weak premises to support your argument. I am thinking that it's more of you being too proud to back away from your initial reaction, which was made before the story fully unfolded, yet has not changed at all despite one of the guys who was said to have inspected the heads came on and said that he did not inspect them prior to sale.

Come on, man. You don't have to stick with that opinion. Brad was wrong and should refund the money. He knowingly sold heads that were scrap. He lied about them being inspected. He used his status as a motown member and former sponsor to give himself credibility that he did not deserve. He knowingly robbed a member who works for his money and like the rest of us, probably doesn't make enough to just give it away to a guy pulling a scam.

 

[nitrouspete]

I understand fully 100% where everyone is coming from. i appreciate the calm down as we were all getting out of hand there a sec. sorry for out bursts on my end, my apologies.

on that note. I agree that the 1100$ is not worth the trouble someone would get from this, but at the same time i do not think he was intentionally scamming him or selling product he knowingly knew had issues like everyone is saying...they were on his running engine all together..and im sure he would have let the springs go with it so pax couldn't look down the runners and see the first issue he saw if he was really trying to pass them on to off them.

Morally, as a Motown member i understand that the issue should have been spoke about more and came to some sort of agreement long before this was made. i'm just stating that as far as legality goes, i do not think Pax has a leg to stand on.

Maybe Brad took Pax phone call the wrong way when he called. more like Pax was telling him like "your going to give me my money back", and less like "hey, i think we have an issue here, could you meet me at the head place so we could look them over together."

I, like the rest of you im sure, dont like when someone calls me if they have an issue and start pushing me off the start. i know Pax said it wasent like that, and no i haven't spoken with Brad so i can not comment if these were his feelings or not, just a guess as i know how one person can take one thing the wrong way very easy.


some of you guys are saying this is not craigslist....so what your saying is if he met pax on craigslist, it would be alright to tell him to kick rocks because they were sold As is, but because its here, its different?


i'm out of this fight. Theres no point in burning a bridge over a gray area where no one was there except brad and pax, who knows what was said or seen at the point of sale, and how it was handled after further said issues were found.

Thank you.

 

[Tin]

some of you guys are saying this is not craigslist....so what your saying is if he met pax on craigslist, it would be alright to tell him to kick rocks because they were sold As is, but because its here, its different?

We weren't implying it would be ok to misinform potential buyers on Craigslist, we were implying that sort of thing is rather common on Craigslist, and has no place on the forum. Most of us take thorough precautions when buying on Craigslist because it is widely known that scams make up a decent chunk of the ads there. What happens on CL is beyond the scope of the forum, it's about as buyer beware as you can get. I don't purchase anything from CL without researching the item in question first, and getting a working knowledge of how the item should operate. As far as MM is concerned, the buyer was confident he wasn't getting scammed due to the close knit nature of the forum. Myself, as well as others here buy with confidence on these forums because everybody here has a reputation to uphold. If you want to screw somebody, do it elsewhere. That said, maybe we should implement seller ratings and feedback on MM? Just a thought.

 

[BigWheelinBubba]

That said, maybe we should implement seller ratings and feedback on MM? Just a thought.

Where's that lurker Brandon at when we need him? :dontknow:

 

[nitrouspete]

i like the idea of seller ratings. just not sure how big of a tech change that would add to the site. mite be to large to write in the system.

 

[Tin]

i like the idea of seller ratings. just not sure how big of a tech change that would add to the site. mite be to large to write in the system.

I don't think it would be too difficult. Many other forums I frequent have it in place.