moneypit
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I wouldnt put notre dame in there LSU from Saban to Miles is a perfect example even though they arent an elite program either
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I wouldnt put notre dame in there LSU from Saban to Miles is a perfect example even though they arent an elite program either
jdustu
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Short memories. Florida was still getting over being Zooked and Meyer wasn't exactly greeted with open arms. His success is what's made guys like Patterson and Peterson the hot commodities, but at the time their fan base wasn't hyped about a coach from Utah taking over.
LSU hired a mercenary, won, lost him to the NFL, and now gets to go against him in conference. Now they have a guy that the fan base is split on and who not so secretly would rather be at Michigan.
UCLA took a chance on a big name marred by scandal and he hasn't finished better than 8th in conference.
Spurrier at USC was a weird deal, and it wasn't smooth(ties in with Meyer at UF). There were rumors HE was going back to UF, but then went to a SEC rival instead.
Maryland, what? how are they relevant? And what "name" did they hire? Edsall? The guy that couldn't score against the worst Michigan defense ever? Or are you going back to Friedgen, who had to BEG for the job back in the day.
Ole Miss hired a guy that had just resigned amid allegations of cheating at Arkansas.
Notre Dame....there was all kinds of "is he/isn't he" with Brian Kelly...who then ditched his BCS team to joing ND. Before that you had plenty of big names that "turned down" ND (i.e. Gruden). And remember the O'Leary fiasco? Dude got canned 5 days after getting the head gig because he lied on his resume!
MSU...are you fucking kidding me? They went and got a "name" coach?
Arkansas, that whole thing was a complete mess. Hiring a quitter, nice work there.
Oregon, Chip Kelly was already their OC. Belloti retired and became AD, he stepped in. Those are the only situations where there are no drama, like at Wisconsin.
Any more? Seriously, when this shit is happening, everyone thinks the world is ending and the school is a joke, and blah blah blah. But it happens EVERY time a big name school goes after a big name coach outside of their program.
jdustu
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Even with Alabama, they weren't a shoe in with Saban. I remember listening to national talk radio when that deal was/wasn't going to happen and Tide fans calling in FREAKING out. "What the hell is the AD doing?" "What has 'Bama football become?" "Forget this guy, he's just playing with us and now we look like a joke"
But people don't think about the process when they are lifting NT trophies.
But people don't think about the process when they are lifting NT trophies.
moneypit
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RROD was the first choice Saban popped up when RROD went to michigan and bama opened the checkbook for saban
jdustu
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Not only that, but they thought they had him, then he publicly said he wasn't leaving Miami, then they gave him a blank check.
NO SCHOOL has the cache to get whoever they want just because they are "such and such" university. There are too many good places to coach, too much parity, too much money. Who would have ever thought you couldn't pull a guy from BSU? The guy has the entire state in his hand, school does what he wants, makes a ton of money, and KILLS people on the field. Obviously bigger challenges allure some, but that's a hell of a quality of life right there.
MxRacerCam
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you also can't forget... it's one thing to build a good program at a school with lower expectations than at one like homomichigan. you can have a few iffy seasons while rebuilding and it's not a huge deal. RROD was 7-5 and in a bowl game in his third year and was basically ran out on a rail. who the fuck wants to come into that? either someone with a huge ego, or a lesser known coach trying to make a name for himself. it's a tough deal.
i almost feel bad for you guys.
i almost feel bad for you guys.
webleedorange619
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X2!!! Shoulda given him 5 years... woulda been in the top of the big 10 again.
I dont feel bad for you guys tho.
jdustu
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Baloney. It wasn't just the record, he didn't fit here. And he coached the WORSE defense AND special teams in the history of the school. Outgoing AD hired him, new AD is gonna put his stamp on the program. It's a unique situation in that regard.
On top of that, mediocre over 3 years the way he did it(not beating rivals/ranked teams) is gonna get you canned at any major CFB player. The one thing that would scare me as a potential coach is the blue divide. There was a faction actively working against RR. I don't know if he would have succeeded anyways, but it was a factor. Desmond Howard tweeted that this was a BS excuse, that the Alumni at Auburn was split on Chizik when he came in too. But I don't know that he was "sabotaged" the way RR was. Hopefully with Brandon in that shit is over and done with.
On top of that, mediocre over 3 years the way he did it(not beating rivals/ranked teams) is gonna get you canned at any major CFB player. The one thing that would scare me as a potential coach is the blue divide. There was a faction actively working against RR. I don't know if he would have succeeded anyways, but it was a factor. Desmond Howard tweeted that this was a BS excuse, that the Alumni at Auburn was split on Chizik when he came in too. But I don't know that he was "sabotaged" the way RR was. Hopefully with Brandon in that shit is over and done with.
4 cam tbird
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I really think keeping Rich Rod, maybe making him get a new defensive coordinator would have been the way to go. Then again, my school fired a coach after a 9 win season that didn't include a loss to Appalachian State once so what do I know about firing coaches?
Swifster
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Josh, I used those teams because the hiring process went smoothly. As an AD, I don't see why you worry about what fans think. But you don't want to embarass yourself or the school by making it a public search and publicly getting turned down. EVERY school thinks it's relavent in football if they are in the BCS. I didn't include Alabama because of the RichRod and Saban issue.
Will Muschamp, even as an offensive coordinator, is a name being Texas' coach-in-waiting (and his $1M paycheck). Florida has NEVER hired a 'name' coach from another team. Even Spurrier was hired from Duke. The highest profile coach was Meyer. Zook was on Spurrier's staff. He was fired even though he did better than RichRod at UM.
Good luck with Brady Hoke. He will be your coach next year. And he should be.
Oh, and Hoke uses the 3-3-5 defense...
Will Muschamp, even as an offensive coordinator, is a name being Texas' coach-in-waiting (and his $1M paycheck). Florida has NEVER hired a 'name' coach from another team. Even Spurrier was hired from Duke. The highest profile coach was Meyer. Zook was on Spurrier's staff. He was fired even though he did better than RichRod at UM.
Good luck with Brady Hoke. He will be your coach next year. And he should be.
Oh, and Hoke uses the 3-3-5 defense...
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Whew I'm SO glad you posted this, because generally everything you say about Michigan football is wrong. Seriously what a relief, keep that streak going not so swifty! Don't fail me now!
ETA: Honestly I wouldn't mind Brady Hoke. Like I said before, Bo was a nobody, Carr was a no body, Ohio State wasn't falling all over them self over the tressel hire, and those all worked out great. Rich Rod was the "sexy" coach when we hired him, and look how that turned out.
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CRASH
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Look, Brandon isn't stupid. Even a blind man can see that everybody and their brother wants Harbaugh, and that he's only going to last a few years before he jumps ship to the NFL. Someone like Miles? Dude is legit but I'm afraid it's going to be RRod type drama again like all the bullshit and drama that went down when he came from WV. I doubt people have the stomach to deal with that kind of drama and controversy again. I seriously doubt that Dungy or anybody else would realistically come here, and that leaves Hoke. A man that obviously wants to come here.
Bring him, and he will do well and be steady with minimum drama and horseshit.
Bring him, and he will do well and be steady with minimum drama and horseshit.
Swifster
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I like Hoke as a coach. I hope I'm wrong too. I'd like nothing better than seeing Hoke's SDSU team coming into the Big House next year and kick Michigan's ass. It would be justice.
And Crash, Dungy would be more likely to coach Minnesota than Michigan.
MxRacerCam
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Quoted from earlier in the thread to prove how little you know. My predictions were perfect, and you thought I was drinking koolaid.
i didn't think he was your type.
He's not, coach Carr was more my type. Ryan even sent me a Carr shaped dildo. I use it DAILY.
Ryan's going to be pissed if he sees I called his man sexy.
Swifster
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So pick the coach...
jdustu
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No, no they weren't. Not only weren't they smooth, most didn't fit the criteria I posted that you responded to. Big program going after name coach from outside program. That's why programs like to have coaches in waiting.
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