Weight loss---permanent plateau?

The title of the thread is 'weight loss', not who can have the biggest muscles.

I get a kick out of 'big' guys who can't do 7-8 pullups (or even one) or somehow can't do 50 push-ups. People get stuck on stuff like 'benching 400lbs' and end up basically still being 'fat' and not really in shape.

I know you're a body builder so it doesn't apply to you, but most people end up just eating too much food when they do '6 meals a day' because it takes quite a bit of work, people overestimate how much a 'small' meal is, and aren't disciplined enough to stick with it.

No matter what your diet it is you have to stick to something and you also have to work out. There's no food out there that's going to make you shredded just by eating it and I'm sure there are jacked guys out there who eat nothing but pizzas.

It's like how regular people thing 'If I drink muscle milk I'll be in amazing shape like so-and-so', but what they don't realize is that so-and-so has a pretty strict diet and workout program, it has nothing to do with the shakes.
TOTALLY agree with you. I am actually on the a program to drop my bodyfat in the lower digits and not really concerned with losing a little muscle.
 
It takes MAJOR diet change for most people. I've been reducing and changing mine slowly and today I started my biggest part of a severe cut in my carb intake. Bread is my weakness. Since January 1st I have given up soda, fast food (aside from the "oh shit I left my lunch on the counter at home" and had a turkey sub on wheat with no mayo from Subway), salty foods, and late night food.... Now today I cut my carb intake down to 30 grams per day. For breakfast I had a protein shake + some turkey sausage I heated up, then I had a chef salad for lunch with very little dressing (lettuce, onion, jalapeno, turkey, egg, green peppers), and an hour ago I had another protein shake. I am going to the gym in an hour and will have a small omelet for dinner. All through today I've had probably 3-4 bottles of water as well as my vitamin pack at lunch.

I used to have a breakfast burrito or two for breakfast w/ a coke... then a burger, fries, and coke at lunch... Then something fried or heavy in carbs for dinner...with another coke.
 
I'm in the "Biggest Loser" weight loss challenge at work. As most of you know, I'm not exactly a "fat guy" but I do have some work to do. I'm also training for the Tough Mudder and another mountain climb.

So far, I've replaced my traditional weight lifting with kettlebells 2 days out of 5 (still doing weights 3 days a week) and I am running 2-3x's a week (about 10-12 miles per week). I've dropped 4lbs in 3 weeks. Not startling, but then again I didn't start at 400lbs either. The best part is I FEEL much better in just a few weeks. As far as diet, I've added one "Healthy Choice Steamer" meal to my daily routine, made sure that I eat breakfast (used to be a Mountain Dew) and switched my daily Mountain Dew or 2 over to a single "Low Carb Monster". Replacing 10 Mountain Dews a week with 7 LC Monsters eliminated about 2500 empty calories per week.
 
switched my daily Mountain Dew or 2 over to a single "Low Carb Monster". Replacing 10 Mountain Dews a week with 7 LC Monsters eliminated about 2500 empty calories per week.

In December I looked on my desk and I had like 3 rows (20+) of empty Coke bottles and decided that shit had to stop.
 
Dom... help me out here. This is my typical day's intake. I'm trying to drop a little bit of belly fat and add lean muscle. Currently 6'2 and 180lbs.

7am: Greek Yogurt + 1 cup of Kashi Go Lean cereal
9am: Brown rice w/1 fried egg and mixed veggies
10-11am = workout/run
12:00: Protein shake
4pm: Healthy Choice "steamer" meal
7pm: Turkey on wheat from Subway
9pm: Protein shake
11pm: Snack, like almonds

Basically it breaks down to about 200g protein, 2300 calories, 277g carbs, and 51g of fat on an average day...

I try to keep things fairly routine... but I also watch a 1 year old during the day and work afternoons... so I get my workout in whenever he decides to nap. Sometimes it's 10am, sometimes it's 2pm. I make sure to take my protein shake after that...
 
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cut down on the rice, bread and cereal. despite being wheat, it's still all carbs. and most people shouldn't eat later than 7-8pm.
 
Dom... help me out here. This is my typical day's intake. I'm trying to drop a little bit of belly fat and add lean muscle. Currently 6'2 and 180lbs.

7am: Greek Yogurt + 1 cup of Kashi Go Lean cereal
9am: Brown rice w/1 fried egg and mixed veggies
10-11am = workout/run
12:00: Protein shake
4pm: Healthy Choice "steamer" meal
7pm: Turkey on wheat from Subway
9pm: Protein shake
11pm: Snack, like almonds

Basically it breaks down to about 200g protein, 2300 calories, 277g carbs, and 51g of fat on an average day...

I try to keep things fairly routine... but I also watch a 1 year old during the day and work afternoons... so I get my workout in whenever he decides to nap. Sometimes it's 10am, sometimes it's 2pm. I make sure to take my protein shake after that...

You have stomach fat at those stats? Your a twig. :lol: I'll let Dom give his advice but I'd say cut back on the carbs, that is a significant amount if your trying to cut.
 
Dom... help me out here. This is my typical day's intake. I'm trying to drop a little bit of belly fat and add lean muscle. Currently 6'2 and 180lbs.

7am: Greek Yogurt + 1 cup of Kashi Go Lean cereal-decent but I prefer guys to eat lean protein in morning as well.
9am: Brown rice w/1 fried egg and mixed veggies-add MORE eggs (prefer WHITES...need the protein
10-11am = workout/run
12:00: Protein shake
4pm: Healthy Choice "steamer" meal
7pm: Turkey on wheat from Subway
9pm: Protein shake
11pm: Snack, like almonds-DROP THIS eat soem sort of casein protein (fat free cottage cheese) try to keep ALL fats out diet when you go to bed when trying to LOSE BF.

Basically it breaks down to about 200g protein, 2300 calories, 277g carbs, and 51g of fat on an average day...

I try to keep things fairly routine... but I also watch a 1 year old during the day and work afternoons... so I get my workout in whenever he decides to nap. Sometimes it's 10am, sometimes it's 2pm. I make sure to take my protein shake after that...

I personally think your protein is slightly low. Carbs are fine IMO for someone training in afternoon. I would actually like to see you eat some sort of high glucose index carbs RIGHT after working out. (about 30-40 grams worth.) I like WHITE rice and hot sauce...that is me though. THEN about half hour later...protein
 
You have stomach fat at those stats? Your a twig. :lol: I'll let Dom give his advice but I'd say cut back on the carbs, that is a significant amount if your trying to cut.

I wouldn't really say I'm a twig... but I'm no brick shithouse either. I think I'm pretty much average kinda fit normal?

But for the things I do, added bulk is a handicap (climbing mountains, etc). I'd like to flatten out the stomach and develop a bit more core/lowerbody strength.

I'm not gonna ghey up somebody else's thread, but this should give you a general idea of my build:

memememe.jpg


That's from about a 2 years ago, and basically I've just gotten lazy and added about 10lbs around the midsection.
 
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I personally think your protein is slightly low. Carbs are fine IMO for someone training in afternoon. I would actually like to see you eat some sort of high glucose index carbs RIGHT after working out. (about 30-40 grams worth.) I like WHITE rice and hot sauce...that is me though. THEN about half hour later...protein

Thanks. I will try all of the above.
 
cut down on the rice, bread and cereal. despite being wheat, it's still all carbs. and most people shouldn't eat later than 7-8pm.
yep......i am not a bread fan UNLESS it is ezekiel...then knock yourself out with it

link ya guys. http://www.foodforlife.com/
they sell at Kroger in frozen (health food section)

btw....cinammon raisin made like french toast is a great treat!
 
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I wouldn't really say I'm a twig... but I'm no brick shithouse either. I think I'm pretty much average kinda fit normal?

But for the things I do, added bulk is a handicap (climbing mountains, etc). I'd like to flatten out the stomach and develop a bit more core/lowerbody strength.
YOU squat??? IF not, you need to!!!!!!!!!! That will help with the WHOLE body!
 
YOU squat??? IF not, you need to!!!!!!!!!! That will help with the WHOLE body!

Not as much as I should.... but I'm back at it.

I am stuck working out at home. So right now I'm doing

4x8 barbell squats
4x10 dumbell lunges
4x10 kettlebell "goblets squats"
 
I wouldn't really say I'm a twig... but I'm no brick shithouse either. I think I'm pretty much average kinda fit normal?

But for the things I do, added bulk is a handicap (climbing mountains, etc). I'd like to flatten out the stomach and develop a bit more core/lowerbody strength.

I'm not gonna ghey up somebody else's thread, but this should give you a general idea of my build:

memememe.jpg


That's from about a 2 years ago, and basically I've just gotten lazy and added about 10lbs around the midsection.

I'd say thats a pretty normal "in shape" build. It just seems light to me since I'm 5'8" and your a skyscraper LOL.
 
Not as much as I should.... but I'm back at it.

I am stuck working out at home. So right now I'm doing

4x8 barbell squats
4x10 dumbell lunges
4x10 kettlebell "goblets squats"

ONE THING THAT MIGHT HELP
5X5 PROGRAM
5 weeks program with 5 reps per set for 5 sets. Week 1: FIRST set is 70% max rep, after that REDUCE weight by 10pds each set until done.
Week 2: what ever your starting weight was ADD 10pds and repeat next 4 sets with reducing.

by week 5 you will have increase strength SIZE and core strength alot. ONE thing is to move a quick pace too.

good luck
 
You said this is your 'typical' day but how many days a week do you actually eat this, and nothing but this? I mean how many days a week are you not at home so you can't make your food (or get it out of the fridge at lunch), or you're out with friends, dinner with your wife... 6 days a week? 2 days a week? When do you get your 'cheat foods' in?

The eating six times a day thing never worked with me. I don't like eating the same stuff over and over, and I like food that actually tastes good. That's part of the problem, you should eat to live and not live to eat, but I like cooking and trying new foods etc. And having to stop what I'm doing to eat every 2 hours just seemed like a pain.

This is my typical day's intake. I'm trying to drop a little bit of belly fat and add lean muscle. Currently 6'2 and 180lbs.

7am: Greek Yogurt + 1 cup of Kashi Go Lean cereal
9am: Brown rice w/1 fried egg and mixed veggies
10-11am = workout/run
12:00: Protein shake
4pm: Healthy Choice "steamer" meal
7pm: Turkey on wheat from Subway
9pm: Protein shake
11pm: Snack, like almonds

Basically it breaks down to about 200g protein, 2300 calories, 277g carbs, and 51g of fat on an average day...

Isn't that triple the protein you 'need' for your body weight and workout level? People like to say "Oh you should have 1g per lb" but you don't need it if you're not seriously working out. I'm just wondering if you're taking in calories in the goal of getting that much protein - the shake and the almonds.

The vegetarians will tell you stuff like "Look how much muscle Gorillas have, and they don't eat meat or fish or eggs...". We're different animals but we're pretty similar. But it's not like you live in the jungle and just munch of leaves all day.
 
You said this is your 'typical' day but how many days a week do you actually eat this, and nothing but this? I mean how many days a week are you not at home so you can't make your food (or get it out of the fridge at lunch), or you're out with friends, dinner with your wife... 6 days a week? 2 days a week? When do you get your 'cheat foods' in?

The eating six times a day thing never worked with me. I don't like eating the same stuff over and over, and I like food that actually tastes good. That's part of the problem, you should eat to live and not live to eat, but I like cooking and trying new foods etc. And having to stop what I'm doing to eat every 2 hours just seemed like a pain.

Isn't that triple the protein you 'need' for your body weight and workout level? People like to say "Oh you should have 1g per lb" but you don't need it if you're not seriously working out. I'm just wondering if you're taking in calories in the goal of getting that much protein - the shake and the almonds.

The vegetarians will tell you stuff like "Look how much muscle Gorillas have, and they don't eat meat or fish or eggs...". We're different animals but we're pretty similar. But it's not like you live in the jungle and just munch of leaves all day.

That's what I eat 5 days a week.

I eat whatever the hell I want on the weekends. I do think that you need a cheat day or two or else you will go insane. It's easier for me to stay on track if I know that I get pizza or steak in a day or two.

I'm home from 7am-3pm with my 1 year old. Then I work from 3:30pm-11:30pm.
 
I have about an inch of belly fat I want to get rid of. I'm not getting any exercise right now aside from a daily dog walk and some bodyweight exercises. But I've lost over ten lbs since December (holidays+vacation didn't help) and would like to lose 7-8 more to put me at 190. I want to try the intermittent fasting where you eat for 8 hours and then don't for 16. I figure if I stop eating at 8pm I can eat at lunch + dinner + snack.
 
OP, I hear ya. I'm trying to "cut" bf too but seem to have reached a plateau. Diet is pretty clean but I just can't seem to get below 225lbs. When I was younger I would cut carbs, do plenty of cardio and drop to 200. Now it seems impossible to do but it's probably because I'm not as strict with my diet. Cutting carbs will do it but I hate the shitty workouts and feeling grumpy/hungry all the time lol. I must be getting old...
 
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