Step 1... House passed the..... You don't need a permit to carry concealed.... Bill

Am I the only gun nut that thinks this is a bad idea? Some of these people in the classes I see at the range definitely need more training that the class even offers imo.
 
BrainFearGone said:
Am I the only gun nut that thinks this is a bad idea? Some of these people in the classes I see at the range definitely need more training that the class even offers imo.
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You're not alone.

I've been handling firearms/hunting for 40 years and I can say that after several outings with my first handgun, I'm finally starting to feel 'comfortable'. And every time I'm at the range, I see at least one person (usually several people) that scares the shit out of me. I was fortunate and grew up being able to shoot out the back door of the house and in general the people at public ranges make me nervous. With that said, I'm very much in favor of more training.
 
X's 3. It scares me that some people are allowed to carry a handgun that's for sure. I fully agree with needing basic training and skillsets to be allowed to carry a handgun.
 
BrainFearGone said:
Am I the only gun nut that thinks this is a bad idea? Some of these people in the classes I see at the range definitely need more training that the class even offers imo.
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I agree with this. I am seriously torn about this. On one hand, I don't like government restrictions on constitutional rights, but like you said there are people who should be nowhere near a gun. I think I would be comfortable if CPL was free, but proof of regular training is required (even though I hate government mandates...)
 
Think about it this way...

What really changes if this is passes? Those that want to carry guns will and those that don't want to won't. I've not been through the ccw classes in Michigan, but when I took mine in Tennessee I didn't get any real training on firearm use, or safety. I didn't have to take any safety classes before hand in order to take the permit class. Only had to hit the target at 3 ridiculously close distances and sit there and listen for the mandated hours of class.

So, in my opinion, I really saw no benefit from the class other than completing it allowed me to carry concealed.
 
Tin said:
Gonna scare all the kids. Not long ago a guy was walking around with a M1 Garand slung across his shoulder and it put people in a hissy fit.
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Are you talking about the guy who was walking near Madison Heights High School about two years ago?
 
While I think its good that we can legally open carry; I do not believe that open carry is very smart. If someone sees you have a gun on your hip, guess who they're going after first.
 
93 saturn sl2 said:
While I think its good that we can legally open carry; I do not believe that open carry is very smart. If someone sees you have a gun on your hip, guess who they're going after first.
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BINGO!!!!!!!

A lot of people don't think about levels of retention...
 
While I understand the constitutional aspect of it... I also think there are plenty of idiots out there who will end up carrying and act completely irresponsible

It is a difficult question and I see both sides of the debate. I don't like the idea of the government regulating something that is a right guaranteed to me in the constitution... but I also don't want people carrying who don't understand the responsibility that comes with it and handles it appropriately


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