MD Not complying with township on noise ordinances

[kovacs32]

http://www.heritage.com/articles/20...5057c19caf767370179590.txt?viewmode=fullstory

The London Township Board has been waiting nearly the entire 2012 Milan Dragway season to discuss the dragway's schedule, which is coming to a close.

London Township has a longstanding agreement with the Milan Dragway that requires the dragway to present its yearly schedule in early spring and seek approval.

The 2012 race schedule was not given to the board until late June and, last month, a representative from the Milan Dragway was a no show at the August Township Board meeting.

This month, a representative from dragway called London Township indicating they couldn't make it to September board meeting.

Township Supervisor Barbara Henley said the dragway was notified of the August meeting, so the board could go over the 2012 schedule and discuss events that have been running late and in violation of the local ordinance.

"I really don't know what to do about them. I've asked them three times to attend our meetings," Henley said.

Henley is not pleased with Milan Dragway officials and their latest postponement.

"At least they called. However, I'm beginning to believe they're just not interested in complying with our ordinances," she said.

The board is concerned with the dragway's lack of compliance because of ongoing noise complaints from residents.

Henley said London Township has restricted operating hours through the township noise ordinance. The Milan Dragway requires prior approvable for late-night events.

Deneen Baxter, vice president of the Milan Dragway, said that she missed the August meeting because she was not notified. Henley said she personally made the calls and left messages.

Since the August meeting, Henley said she has gone to the dragway to personally ask Baxter to attend the meeting.

Baxter said she doesn't understand why people are complaining.

"We haven't used half of the dates we requested this year," she said.

Racing sometimes runs late because of weather conditions or large events. Weather-related delays are down this year; however, the Aug. 19 race was loud and continued past 1:40 a.m., Henley said.

"She just doesn't seem to get it. The Milan Dragway is a specialized business. London Township has worked very hard to allow late racing and special events as long as they are pre-approved," Henley said.

Since the London Township Board has not acted on the 2012 schedule, Henley said no late racing has been approved.

Township officials are looking into a fining system, which would allow the township to issue tickets for ordinance violations.

 

[99lsWON]

so, i COMPLETELY understand the noise ordinance. you cant just be making noise at all hours of the night, what i dont understand is...you can make noise late at night....as long as the township says its ok? so you can piss of the neighbors as long as the township gets to flex its muscles first? did i read that right? :lol:

 

[91trunk]

1. Fuck the township, anyone read the "Plank Rd" thread? They can't pave the fucking road for us racers

2. Fuck the whiners. Who the fuck forced them to live near the dragstrip? Seriously they didn't just build the fucking thing. This shit kills me, just like the people complaining about the airport or highways. DON'T MOVE THERE!!!!!!! I can hear M-14 sometimes during the Summer when the windows are open, I'm 1/2 mile away from it. I knew it was there when I moved in. Can I call and complain to M-DOT?

:jagoff:

 

[fyoung7]

1. Fuck the township, anyone read the "Plank Rd" thread? They can't pave the fucking road for us racers

2. Fuck the whiners. Who the fuck forced them to live near the dragstrip? Seriously they didn't just build the fucking thing. This shit kills me, just like the people complaining about the airport or highways. DON'T MOVE THERE!!!!!!! I can hear M-14 sometimes during the Summer when the windows are open, I'm 1/2 mile away from it. I knew it was there when I moved in. Can I call and complain to M-DOT?

:jagoff:

agree
I live by Flat Rock Speedway It was here way before I moved here. One night a week They run, it me it is kind of cool to hear it, and it sure don't stop me from sleeping. Just another put some my grease in my hand

 

[Golden]

1. Fuck the township, anyone read the "Plank Rd" thread? They can't pave the fucking road for us racers

2. Fuck the whiners. Who the fuck forced them to live near the dragstrip? Seriously they didn't just build the fucking thing. This shit kills me, just like the people complaining about the airport or highways. DON'T MOVE THERE!!!!!!! I can hear M-14 sometimes during the Summer when the windows are open, I'm 1/2 mile away from it. I knew it was there when I moved in. Can I call and complain to M-DOT?

:jagoff:

I'm 5.5 miles away and I can sit on my back patio at night and listen to the cars make passes. It's music to my ears.

And the issue with Plank road is from all of the trailers (mostly big rigs).

 

[ItsAllAboutTheT&A]

I cant stand people who complain about something thats been the same for years and years. Fuck man. You know its there. It's not a secret what they do all hours of the night. Dont move there if you dont like the sound of drag cars running WOT all night long. I didnt move next to an airport, because I dont want to hear jets ripping past my house all night and day. Simple as that. Dumb asses.

And 99lsOne, I feel the same way as you do. "Wait...Its ok to make a shitload of noise, so as long as the township says it's ok?" Just like anything else the government runs. it's illegal and a big no no, unless we decide it's ok to throw moral judgement out the window and approve of the nonsense. That about sums it up.

 

[Beigg]

So people want to stop the illegal street racing in Detroit where no one really cares about and also want to take all the sanctioned racing places we have left that generates revenue ..... I guess that makes sense.. if you're retarded.

 

[Justindwright]

So people want to stop the illegal street racing in Detroit where no one really cares about and also want to take all the sanctioned racing places we have left that generates revenue ..... I guess that makes sense.. if you're retarded.

Yep.

 

[Scooter70]

I'll play devil's advocate. All cities and towns have noise ordinances. Obviously the track has been there a while and residents have learned to deal with it. However, in order to operate the town wants to know the track's proposed schedule ahead of time. The article wasn't about late night events, it was about the track's failure to A) Present the 2012 schedule at the beginning of the year and B) Failing to even show up at the town board meetings after being personally invited multiple times.

If you want to do business in the town, you have to at least play by the town's rules. Tracks are getting shut down left and right (and new tracks have the impossible task of getting approved) due to noise restrictions. Why continue to do things to piss off the town? Keep it up and Milan Dragway will be shut down.

 

[Pwraddr]

Nice post....Milan needs to play by the rules and send their schedule on time and show up for meetings or operate their business somewhere else. Seems like piss poor management to me.

Keep in mind, if the company you worked for sent a meeting invite and you didn't show up there would be consequences, Milan should have them too.

I'll play devil's advocate. All cities and towns have noise ordinances. Obviously the track has been there a while and residents have learned to deal with it. However, in order to operate the town wants to know the track's proposed schedule ahead of time. The article wasn't about late night events, it was about the track's failure to A) Present the 2012 schedule at the beginning of the year and B) Failing to even show up at the town board meetings after being personally invited multiple times.

If you want to do business in the town, you have to at least play by the town's rules. Tracks are getting shut down left and right (and new tracks have the impossible task of getting approved) due to noise restrictions. Why continue to do things to piss off the town? Keep it up and Milan Dragway will be shut down.

 

[kovacs32]

I'll play devil's advocate. All cities and towns have noise ordinances. Obviously the track has been there a while and residents have learned to deal with it. However, in order to operate the town wants to know the track's proposed schedule ahead of time. The article wasn't about late night events, it was about the track's failure to A) Present the 2012 schedule at the beginning of the year and B) Failing to even show up at the town board meetings after being personally invited multiple times.

If you want to do business in the town, you have to at least play by the town's rules. Tracks are getting shut down left and right (and new tracks have the impossible task of getting approved) due to noise restrictions. Why continue to do things to piss off the town? Keep it up and Milan Dragway will be shut down.

at least someone is on the same page as me.

 

[Beigg]

It could be possible that if MD submitted the schedule on time and spent the time to go in front of the committee they'd probably see rejection and or multiple requests to alter the schedule.... when that just can't be allowed because of the severity of planning. Ask for forgiveness later.

 

[Scooter70]

That might work with your wife but generally not so much in business.

 

[KENNEBELL2.6]

It could be possible that if MD submitted the schedule on time and spent the time to go in front of the committee they'd probably see rejection and or multiple requests to alter the schedule.... when that just can't be allowed because of the severity of planning. Ask for forgiveness later.

I agree they need to play by the rules but this ^^^ is likely what would happen when they showed up.

 

[4Gas$]

It could be possible that if MD submitted the schedule on time and spent the time to go in front of the committee they'd probably see rejection and or multiple requests to alter the schedule.... when that just can't be allowed because of the severity of planning. Ask for forgiveness later.

That only works once......maybe twice.

 

[Beigg]

I wonder how many times in the past has MD went to the meetings and submitted the schedule to have it all jacked over?

 

[igotaneed4speed]

Dodging those meetings tells me Milan has no plans for good relations with the township in the future, you cannot just do whatever you wish and ignore them without repercussions. Almost seems as if they already plan on not having a season next year and said fuck it we'll do whatever we want this year and next year it won't be our problem. That or they just have clue when it comes to good business practices, it would make sense to have sat down with the township prior to the season even starting and working something out when people are chippy and cheery. Now you have pissed off people on the council from Milan dodging meetings, plus now they have had complaints from residents and can use them as ammo in the meetings where as negotiating prior to the season there wouldn't be any. Would have been much easier negotiations to do this before hand... which just leads me back to Milan's current owners prob don't plan on owning the track next year. which is fitting of Milan owners attitude, "if were gunna lose it lets fuck up everything as much as we can for the to be owner"

 

[Sledder]

Dodging those meetings tells me Milan has no plans for good relations with the township in the future, you cannot just do whatever you wish and ignore them without repercussions. Almost seems as if they already plan on not having a season next year and said fuck it we'll do whatever we want this year and next year it won't be our problem. That or they just have clue when it comes to good business practices, it would make sense to have sat down with the township prior to the season even starting and working something out when people are chippy and cheery. Now you have pissed off people on the council from Milan dodging meetings, plus now they have had complaints from residents and can use them as ammo in the meetings where as negotiating prior to the season there wouldn't be any. Would have been much easier negotiations to do this before hand... which just leads me back to Milan's current owners prob don't plan on owning the track next year. which is fitting of Milan owners attitude, "if were gunna lose it lets fuck up everything as much as we can for the to be owner"

Spot on. I am afraid their long term business plan isn't so long term.

 

[Falcon64]

They will close shop in the next two years. Hopefully someone with drag racing interests will buy it.

 

[4 cam tbird]

I wonder how many times in the past has MD went to the meetings and submitted the schedule to have it all jacked over?

I was also wondering what kind of historical relationship Milan had with the Township. Maybe they've dealt with it before and it ends up just being a big waste of time?