Lapeer dragway has a new owner

punnisher said:
Ed is behind it and he is paying anything he can to fuck bill over. Ed is a complete piece of shit in my book but this isn’t the first time he has pulled this shit. He has sold the track before and did this and ended up getting it back with some improvements.
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That's really messed up.
 
A guy I work with is one of the locals that are bitching right now. I don't see him that often, but I saw him today at Starbucks and he went on a 10 minute rant about the "New ownership". From what he told me, at some point this spring, they were running the track past midnight on Sunday until almost 3 am on Monday morning. And I guess on top of that, there is a new massive PA system similar to a 1970's Who Concert and the guys at the track are getting on it drunk in between runs and just being drunk idiots.

So as in all cases, there are two sides to every story. It sucks that he is limited in when he can run, but if I got 2 hours of sleep because some yahoo is making passes I would probably pissed off too. The guy I know has lived there for 20 years, and this year is the first time he has ever had a problem with the track.

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
A guy I work with is one of the locals that are bitching right now. I don't see him that often, but I saw him today at Starbucks and he went on a 10 minute rant about the "New ownership". From what he told me, at some point this spring, they were running the track past midnight on Sunday until almost 3 am on Monday morning. And I guess on top of that, there is a new massive PA system similar to a 1970's Who Concert and the guys at the track are getting on it drunk in between runs and just being drunk idiots.

So as in all cases, there are two sides to every story. It sucks that he is limited in when he can run, but if I got 2 hours of sleep because some yahoo is making passes I would probably pissed off too. The guy I know has lived there for 20 years, and this year is the first time he has ever had a problem with the track.

-Geoff
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Our PA system sucks we need to update it. (ask all the guys they tell me Payso we cant hear in the back lol)

We have never run that late on a Sunday because no one races on a Sunday and there has never been an event with a enough cars to run that late.

Bill had one long night and that was with Pinks All Out... he wanted to end it but due to it being a "show" they did run it later than any event that has ever been ran there.
 
PaysoProductions said:
Our PA system sucks we need to update it. (ask all the guys they tell me Payso we cant hear in the back lol)

We have never run that late on a Sunday because no one races on a Sunday and there has never been an event with a enough cars to run that late.

Bill had one long night and that was with Pinks All Out... he wanted to end it but due to it being a "show" they did run it later than any event that has ever been ran there.
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I hope that night was worth it, because it pushed a lot of neighbors off the fence into the "Shut it down" column.

-Geoff
 
If the great Geoff has said it it must be true lol. It’s probably the Democrats fault but don’t worry the grand Chetto will fix it and cut your taxes in 2020. Merica
 
mikesfastss said:
If the great Geoff has said it it must be true lol. It’s probably the Democrats fault but don’t worry the grand Chetto will fix it and cut your taxes in 2020. Merica
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Don't attack the messenger! It just sounds to me like this guy is stuck in a mess of his own making. It sucks. But running cars at 3 am is bound to ruffle some feathers. And it did.

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
Don't attack the messenger! It just sounds to me like this guy is stuck in a mess of his own making. It sucks. But running cars at 3 am is bound to ruffle some feathers. And it did.

-Geoff
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Man the rumors that fly from non knowing sons a bitches is comical to say the least. The PA System is original, from the prior track owner. Minus a few speakers that didnt work and didnt get put back up. There has been no 3am drunken PA announcements.

In fact the ONE night that the track got ran super late was indeed because there was a filming of Pinks All out taking place. The reason it went so late is due to a racer having a driveshaft blow through his trans tunnel mangling his elbow. Track was down for quite some time due to the incident. The Production of this show had a large sum of money into the event and it needed to finish. The last run was done at 2:30am. And the funny thing is that most people in the area including myself never heard a peep. And FWIW there was no restrictions put in place, the track was sold with no time constraints or noise ordinances. He has/is trying to be mindful of the neighbors and has played very nice! I'm afraid at this point he is done being nice. A lawsuit with the prior owner, township and harassers is set in motion and he has the capital to drag this out for a long time. Even if the track is forced to be non operational the losses will trickle down the line and make the involved parties wish they would have just moved....
 
SuperStang90 said:
Man the rumors that fly from non knowing sons a bitches is comical to say the least. The PA System is original, from the prior track owner. Minus a few speakers that didnt work and didnt get put back up. There has been no 3am drunken PA announcements.

In fact the ONE night that the track got ran super late was indeed because there was a filming of Pinks All out taking place. The reason it went so late is due to a racer having a driveshaft blow through his trans tunnel mangling his elbow. Track was down for quite some time due to the incident. The Production of this show had a large sum of money into the event and it needed to finish. The last run was done at 2:30am. And the funny thing is that most people in the area including myself never heard a peep. And FWIW there was no restrictions put in place, the track was sold with no time constraints or noise ordinances. He has/is trying to be mindful of the neighbors and has played very nice! I'm afraid at this point he is done being nice. A lawsuit with the prior owner, township and harassers is set in motion and he has the capital to drag this out for a long time. Even if the track is forced to be non operational the losses will trickle down the line and make the involved parties wish they would have just moved....
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Again, don't shoot the messenger. One night was all it took to move long time neighbors off the fence. It doesn't matter if it was one or ten - the damage was done. BUT - The truth hurts. Then you say they are running more speakers (louder), and that they did run into the middle of the night, it turns out I am "Knowing" because you just confirmed exactly what I posted. We all want to be noble and play the victim here about tracks under attack. But this guy fucked with peoples jobs by running a show the middle of the night. Now he is paying the price.

And newsflash - your statement "he has the capital to drag this out for a long time." just makes him look like an asshole. And if he is bragging about it, then I have zero sympathy for him (and neither will a jury). And this "and make the involved parties wish they would have just moved.... " is a thuggish threat that will play nicely in court. We are talking about what - a dozen neighbors tops? Sit down with them and MAKE A DEAL. For fucks sake, he needs to quit acting like an entitled spoiled brat. The dude fucked up. Instead of lawyering and fighting, admit it, including an actual apology without any "BUT PINKS...", and get the place going again.

-Geoff

Edit: I misread your part about the speakers, but for whatever reason the guy I talked to threw the PA into his rant, so maybe just running it at 3 am was the difference.
 
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Good for him hopefully he wins in court, he bought an existing business that makes noise and now it’s a problem because the previous owner can see that this guy is making money and he regrets it. Fuck that old man and the neighbors that don’t like it. If you move close to rail road tracks and don’t
Like the sound will they stop running for you? Exactly!
 
WhiteHawk said:
Again, don't shoot the messenger. One night was all it took to move long time neighbors off the fence. It doesn't matter if it was one or ten - the damage was done. BUT - The truth hurts. Then you say they are running more speakers (louder), and that they did run into the middle of the night, it turns out I am "Knowing" because you just confirmed exactly what I posted. We all want to be noble and play the victim here about tracks under attack. But this guy fucked with peoples jobs by running a show the middle of the night. Now he is paying the price.

And newsflash - your statement "he has the capital to drag this out for a long time." just makes him look like an asshole. And if he is bragging about it, then I have zero sympathy for him (and neither will a jury). And this "and make the involved parties wish they would have just moved.... " is a thuggish threat that will play nicely in court. We are talking about what - a dozen neighbors tops? Sit down with them and MAKE A DEAL. For fucks sake, he needs to quit acting like an entitled spoiled brat. The dude fucked up. Instead of lawyering and fighting, admit it, including an actual apology without any "BUT PINKS...", and get the place going again.

-Geoff

Edit: I misread your part about the speakers, but for whatever reason the guy I talked to threw the PA into his rant, so maybe just running it at 3 am was the difference.
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You aren’t really understanding. What do you do when you as a track owner are put into that position? They finished the show. It wasn’t a planned ordeal but they did what they had to do. As for the complaining neighbors, this plan they have to limit hours and or shut the track down had been in motion since way before that. This one event made no impact on their motive.

Everything done to this track has been done by the book. He got necessary permission where needed and like I stated he didn’t have restrictions. So there was nothing going against the grain doing what he did. This is a case of a few bad seeds paying off a judge. Karma will play its course.

As for my statements where I said he has the money to drag this on, that is towards the ones that thought he would fail, he’s not giving up and will make sure the right thing is done no matter how long it takes. He’s sunk millions in the facility to make it a nice place for people to enjoy. He’s tried to play nice with everyone and be reasonable. And he has kept getting shit on. There’s a lot of miserable people in this world that have nothing better to do than try and bring others success down. That’s what this case is all about. None of these statements are out of his mouth, this is all observations I’ve made based on factual information. I live less than a mile from the track and have been involved since day one of everything going on. The things I’ve read that are so far from the truth really boil my blood.

in my opinion it’s best for the township to come to a reasonable agreement with the owner of the track that will benefit all parties, because without a doubt the current injunction imposed is asinine.
 
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