Flooring guys and those with nice finished basements.

[SVT32VDOHC]

Okay guys, I ordered the Allure Traffic Master Vinal Plank flooring from Home Depot. I ordered yesterday they said 3-5 business days, free shipping.

What pushed me over the edge to make the purchase was visiting the Twisted Rooster on Sunday. It's on Hall Rd east of Gratiot. I walk in, and they have that flooring in the entire bar. It was even the same color and style I wanted, "Bamboo Light". They had it mixed in with the Bamboo Dark and it looked great. They've been open since May and if it can hold up in a bar, it can hold up in my basement. I will be posting pics when I get this stuff and start installing it.

 

[Billydroveit]

Okay guys, I ordered the Allure Traffic Master Vinal Plank flooring from Home Depot. I ordered yesterday they said 3-5 business days, free shipping.

What pushed me over the edge to make the purchase was visiting the Twisted Rooster on Sunday. It's on Hall Rd east of Gratiot. I walk in, and they have that flooring in the entire bar. It was even the same color and style I wanted, "Bamboo Light". They had it mixed in with the Bamboo Dark and it looked great. They've been open since May and if it can hold up in a bar, it can hold up in my basement. I will be posting pics when I get this stuff and start installing it.

Good choice. I have layed the laminate flooring (pergo) in my kitchen, and my sons room. THe kitchen put up with it for about 7 years, and the edges are starting to delaminate and look like shit. The finish on the floor is durable as hell, as my wife tested it out on a almost daily basis dropping shit on it. But after years of heat cycles, and a few liquid spills, it's toast, and i will never do another floor like that again. THe floor i laid in my sons room is holding up good, but it's only been down for 5 years, and doesn't get nearly the torture of a kitchen. In a basement, i would NEVER lay these style of floors. Even with a moisture barrier, unless specified forhigh moisture areas, i just don't think they could handle the environment. I also laid a small section of it at my front door entry. It took less than a yearfor it to swell and flake. All three floors were different brands also.

I'll have to look at that vinyle flooring for when i get the next house. I want to partially finish the basement in the next house, and i would rather do a floor like that with area rugs. post some pics up when you get done.

 

[derbydad276]

I used to be a service manger for a new home builder and I allways warned people that a basement is a hole in the ground

and holes in the ground fill up with water!

the only thing I would put on a basement floor is tile and throw rugs I have seen too many basements fill with water over the years

comercial grade vinyl tile that can be buffed or ceramic are your best choices

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

Good choice. I have layed the laminate flooring (pergo) in my kitchen, and my sons room. THe kitchen put up with it for about 7 years, and the edges are starting to delaminate and look like shit. The finish on the floor is durable as hell, as my wife tested it out on a almost daily basis dropping shit on it. But after years of heat cycles, and a few liquid spills, it's toast, and i will never do another floor like that again. THe floor i laid in my sons room is holding up good, but it's only been down for 5 years, and doesn't get nearly the torture of a kitchen. In a basement, i would NEVER lay these style of floors. Even with a moisture barrier, unless specified forhigh moisture areas, i just don't think they could handle the environment. I also laid a small section of it at my front door entry. It took less than a yearfor it to swell and flake. All three floors were different brands also.

I'll have to look at that vinyle flooring for when i get the next house. I want to partially finish the basement in the next house, and i would rather do a floor like that with area rugs. post some pics up when you get done.

Thanks Billy. I think you are the one who posted a pic of your kitchen with that badass Sherwin Williams Blue a while back. Sounds like you've been doing some work around your house.

My parents have Pergo in their kitchen. My Dad installed it over 10 years ago, it was the glue in type, I don't think they had click in back then. It's held up well. Lots of dogs have come thru there and I even came in with my roller blades as a teenager. I'm also remodeling my kitchen right now, that is what I'm going to use in there. Pergo has a new floor with a picture of a Great Dane on the package... :lol: That's what I need cause my dog is a nut and I want something tough.

As far as the basement, yes, I'll post pics for you and any others interested in how this goes. Again, it laid down nicely in the Twisted Rooster and think how many people go in and out of there, and how many times tables and chairs get moved around. It looked like it was holding up well also. I thought of laminate wood with a moisture barrier, but I'm worried too about anything popping up, or an unlevel spot where I wouldn't be able to click a board into another. I also found laminate wood cheaper.....but by the time I bought the wood, the mositure barrier and padding, it was the same amount as this vinal wood floor. Plus a lot more labor laying 3 layers vs. 1.

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

I used to be a service manger for a new home builder and I allways warned people that a basement is a hole in the ground

and holes in the ground fill up with water!

the only thing I would put on a basement floor is tile and throw rugs I have seen too many basements fill with water over the years

comercial grade vinyl tile that can be buffed or ceramic are your best choices

I totally understand. My house was built in 68 or 69 and the basement is pretty dry. I had a small crack in one wall when I moved in, it leaked twice in heavy ass rain, but was literally a piss puddle that stayed on the unfinished side. It was fixed by B-Dry with a lifetime warranty, luckly hasn't leaked since (6 years now). Anyways, I figured I'll be safe with this flooring, they say it's 100% waterproof and 25 year warranty. I thought about the commercial tile to glue down, as I've seen in friends basements, but that stuff reminds me of my high school classrooms and cafeteria. :lol: Ceramic would ahve been great, but I've never layed it, nor do I think I have the time or patience with the kitchen going on at the same time.

I don't know what's up with basements but my sister has a house that is less than 1 years old and she had a crack and leaked just when her sprinklers were on. They fixed it under a home warranty. I also had a friend who's parents house developed at least 5 or 6 cracks in the walls within 3 or 4 years of being built. Do builders not take time anymore pouring foundations or what?

 

[Billydroveit]

Thanks Billy. I think you are the one who posted a pic of your kitchen with that badass Sherwin Williams Blue a while back. Sounds like you've been doing some work around your house.

My parents have Pergo in their kitchen. My Dad installed it over 10 years ago, it was the glue in type, I don't think they had click in back then. It's held up well. Lots of dogs have come thru there and I even came in with my roller blades as a teenager. I'm also remodeling my kitchen right now, that is what I'm going to use in there. Pergo has a new floor with a picture of a Great Dane on the package... :lol: That's what I need cause my dog is a nut and I want something tough.

As far as the basement, yes, I'll post pics for you and any others interested in how this goes. Again, it laid down nicely in the Twisted Rooster and think how many people go in and out of there, and how many times tables and chairs get moved around. It looked like it was holding up well also. I thought of laminate wood with a moisture barrier, but I'm worried too about anything popping up, or an unlevel spot where I wouldn't be able to click a board into another. I also found laminate wood cheaper.....but by the time I bought the wood, the mositure barrier and padding, it was the same amount as this vinal wood floor. Plus a lot more labor laying 3 layers vs. 1.

Yessir that would be me! I laid that floor the same time i painted. I would really really be careful with a laminate floor in the kitchen. I was told the stuff i bought would be fine, and i know i laid it properly. Now i wish i would have done the glue/seem seal flooring. But my sons room looks great! I know Pergo makes a flooring specifically made for high moisture areas. THis stuff isn't cheap, and i would have expected more than 7 years from what i put in. As far as dogs, i have a high energy 75lb boxer, and she hasn't even put a nick in any of my flooring. My wife drops glass bowls, and pans on it, and it has stood up to it better than expected. I'm just dissapointed in the seems. I guess i'm burnt on it, untill someone proves to me the moisture isn't an issue. But this whole vinyle has my interest. I looked on the Depot site, and so far i like it. THe only thing i would do if i were you, if you have a low spot in your basement flooring, remember you're laying vinyl. It is going to show after a while if you don't fill it. You can get vinyl floor leveler in 5 gallon buckets as well as small dispenser bottles. I used this in my old basement to fill in some low spots, and it was great. Self leveling and dried quickly. If you want to pu an underlayment down, i did see some relatively inexpensive underlayment at Big Lots last time i wandered through.

Yes the old house got alot of work(14 years worth), and just as i got it to look the way i wanted (colors, and flooring) we moved! Right now in an inbetween condo to just buy time for the market. Hopefully going to put the condo up for sale next year and buy a house, and start the remodel process over again.

Sorry, i can get a little winded in my posts.! lol

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

Yessir that would be me! I laid that floor the same time i painted. I would really really be careful with a laminate floor in the kitchen. I was told the stuff i bought would be fine, and i know i laid it properly. Now i wish i would have done the glue/seem seal flooring. But my sons room looks great! I know Pergo makes a flooring specifically made for high moisture areas. THis stuff isn't cheap, and i would have expected more than 7 years from what i put in. As far as dogs, i have a high energy 75lb boxer, and she hasn't even put a nick in any of my flooring. My wife drops glass bowls, and pans on it, and it has stood up to it better than expected. I'm just dissapointed in the seems. I guess i'm burnt on it, untill someone proves to me the moisture isn't an issue. But this whole vinyle has my interest. I looked on the Depot site, and so far i like it. THe only thing i would do if i were you, if you have a low spot in your basement flooring, remember you're laying vinyl. It is going to show after a while if you don't fill it. You can get vinyl floor leveler in 5 gallon buckets as well as small dispenser bottles. I used this in my old basement to fill in some low spots, and it was great. Self leveling and dried quickly. If you want to pu an underlayment down, i did see some relatively inexpensive underlayment at Big Lots last time i wandered through.

Yes the old house got alot of work(14 years worth), and just as i got it to look the way i wanted (colors, and flooring) we moved! Right now in an inbetween condo to just buy time for the market. Hopefully going to put the condo up for sale next year and buy a house, and start the remodel process over again.

Sorry, i can get a little winded in my posts.! lol

I can get winded too, but I think it's cause I type as fast as I can talk, so I don't realize how much I type. :lol:

Anyways, yeah, it's tough to do all that work and then move, like you did, but I guess everyone does it. I wanna stay at least 3-5 years after this is done. I wanna enjoy my work, but ultimatley it depends what the market does. My dog is almost 70 lbs and he's like a wild horse or young deer running around sometimes. LOL!!!!

For the self leveler....how do you lay that?? Just pour and spread?? I'll consider it. I'm gonna take a straight or level and go around in certain spots and see how the cement looks. Luckly it's smooth cement, not rough.

 

[Billydroveit]

I can get winded too, but I think it's cause I type as fast as I can talk, so I don't realize how much I type. :lol:

Anyways, yeah, it's tough to do all that work and then move, like you did, but I guess everyone does it. I wanna stay at least 3-5 years after this is done. I wanna enjoy my work, but ultimatley it depends what the market does. My dog is almost 70 lbs and he's like a wild horse or young deer running around sometimes. LOL!!!!

For the self leveler....how do you lay that?? Just pour and spread?? I'll consider it. I'm gonna take a straight or level and go around in certain spots and see how the cement looks. Luckly it's smooth cement, not rough.

For teh small spots i needed filled i just baught the squeez type bottle and filled in the small divits and trowled over them to level it with the top. It all depends on the area you need to level. I was just suggesting it for those little holes and small uneven spots that can be in some basement floors. Fill them in befor laying the floor and you will avoid the little dents in the finished product. For larger areas it's a pour in and walk away, as most of it self levels.

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

For teh small spots i needed filled i just baught the squeez type bottle and filled in the small divits and trowled over them to level it with the top. It all depends on the area you need to level. I was just suggesting it for those little holes and small uneven spots that can be in some basement floors. Fill them in befor laying the floor and you will avoid the little dents in the finished product. For larger areas it's a pour in and walk away, as most of it self levels.

Okay thanks. So you don't really need to cover the whole floor, you're just saying you can find obvious spots and pour and spread? At first I was thinking, I'd have to spread the whole floor and see where it goes.

I'll have to take up a large section and look at it. I took up about 45 sq. ft. so far and that looks really really good, I hope the rest looks as good as this section that is bare right now.

 

[Billydroveit]

Okay thanks. So you don't really need to cover the whole floor, you're just saying you can find obvious spots and pour and spread? At first I was thinking, I'd have to spread the whole floor and see where it goes.

I'll have to take up a large section and look at it. I took up about 45 sq. ft. so far and that looks really really good, I hope the rest looks as good as this section that is bare right now.

Yeah i'm just talking small pot holes that seem to be in most poured floors. Vinyl will settle into them, and leave dents. A little prevention will go a long way, and look way better over time.

 

[SVT32VDOHC]

Yeah i'm just talking small pot holes that seem to be in most poured floors. Vinyl will settle into them, and leave dents. A little prevention will go a long way, and look way better over time.

I'm def gonna check it out, thanks for bringing it to my attention. If it's not perfect, I won't let it eat at me, but I wanna get it the best I can. If the dent stays, that won't be as bad as if it "pops up"......like say, dent when you step on it, then pops flat, or pops up when you remove your foot. We'll see....