Do Not Deal With Brad O'Hara/oharaautomotive
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Ponyryd
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Holy shot man, those hards are scrap.
I don't even see a way this can be fixed properly...........
This really sucks, I doubt I know even 5 people on here personally, but regardless of that I would offer a refund immediately on any parts that are damaged/not as specified. IF I were to see something damaged to my knowledge I would ALWAYS have myself and the buyer sign a receipt outlining the damage.
But in my approx. 10 years of selling cars/parts online I have had one instance where the buyer was unsure if the parts would fit his car, he took and paid for them, tried them out, no dice so he shipped them back and money was returned.
I don't even see a way this can be fixed properly...........
This really sucks, I doubt I know even 5 people on here personally, but regardless of that I would offer a refund immediately on any parts that are damaged/not as specified. IF I were to see something damaged to my knowledge I would ALWAYS have myself and the buyer sign a receipt outlining the damage.
But in my approx. 10 years of selling cars/parts online I have had one instance where the buyer was unsure if the parts would fit his car, he took and paid for them, tried them out, no dice so he shipped them back and money was returned.
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PaxNovi 5.0
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Bump. Just to keep this at the forefront of everyone's minds.
nitrouspete
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so let me get this right,
about 5 of you wanna say some shit like don't buy anything from me because i wont make it right because my opinion is different then yours? I have not one time sold one part to ANY person on this form that had even a slight issue and if there was an issue it was told to the best of my knowledge up front and the price reflected that. just like Brad did at the time of sale.
If no one saw these cracks and they were found later, then hell yea, brad would be on the hook for the cash.
But the cracks were seen before sale! Brad even told him he dident have to buy them!
Thats like me saying this transmission i have is for sale, you come look at it and see it work, then i noticed it started slipping and i was selling it for 1500.we speak about the possible issue the transmission may have, i tell you sorry for wasting your time and you dont need to buy it, but you still work out a deal for you to get it for 1100 because you think you can rebuild it. you even came by and saw it works but is just slipping. then you get it to the shop and the guy at the shop now says it needs this and that and its gonna be over what you thought. why the hell would i refund your cash when you knew your were buying parts with an issue and i even told you that you dident need to buy them if you dident want them?
so what if the tables turned and the guy who was going to rebuild the heads found out the heads were in better condition then what you and brad thought (cuz nor you or Brad are head guys) and dident need any work at all? would you call Brad up and give him the extra cash for them since you guys were both wrong on the condition? no.
It's kinda shady that some of you guys put my name on blast because i agree with Brad. Pax made a choice to buy potently junk parts and knew the risks clear as day up front. he still made the choice to buy them. Brad was not holding his money hostage.
about 5 of you wanna say some shit like don't buy anything from me because i wont make it right because my opinion is different then yours? I have not one time sold one part to ANY person on this form that had even a slight issue and if there was an issue it was told to the best of my knowledge up front and the price reflected that. just like Brad did at the time of sale.
If no one saw these cracks and they were found later, then hell yea, brad would be on the hook for the cash.
But the cracks were seen before sale! Brad even told him he dident have to buy them!
Thats like me saying this transmission i have is for sale, you come look at it and see it work, then i noticed it started slipping and i was selling it for 1500.we speak about the possible issue the transmission may have, i tell you sorry for wasting your time and you dont need to buy it, but you still work out a deal for you to get it for 1100 because you think you can rebuild it. you even came by and saw it works but is just slipping. then you get it to the shop and the guy at the shop now says it needs this and that and its gonna be over what you thought. why the hell would i refund your cash when you knew your were buying parts with an issue and i even told you that you dident need to buy them if you dident want them?
so what if the tables turned and the guy who was going to rebuild the heads found out the heads were in better condition then what you and brad thought (cuz nor you or Brad are head guys) and dident need any work at all? would you call Brad up and give him the extra cash for them since you guys were both wrong on the condition? no.
It's kinda shady that some of you guys put my name on blast because i agree with Brad. Pax made a choice to buy potently junk parts and knew the risks clear as day up front. he still made the choice to buy them. Brad was not holding his money hostage.
MarkVIII93
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That looks like some shit my gf would text me. I read the first couple words and stopped.
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raroz28
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Have you even read what actually happened?
nitrouspete
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i been away for a few days and did a quick skim over.......guess ill read it a lil better in a few.
just more pissed off that my name was said to not deal with.
smooth
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Your clearly shady as fuck
nitrouspete
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ok so reading back ( i been gone for 12 days on vacation so i haven't been on).
i see the valves don't match what was originally in it, Brian advised that these were good for naturally aspirated only, and yada yada yada.
So what your saying is that Brian knew about a potential issue with them as he advised these shouldent be on anything but a naturally aspirated car? These were not your words, but in context that's what i see? if there was no issue when he sold them then why would he say that?
as far as the valves not matching, whos to say the guy who sold the heads to Brad dident take them apart or something and swap out? if you dident notice they wernt titanium, then how would he since he is not a head expert either. he was selling an item based on how it was sold to him and the best of his knowledge.
im not defending either party as far as condition or whos who and whats what and all that.
my opinion was that used RACE heads were bought with a KNOWN AT TIME OF SALE potential issue. Said issue was larger then he thought it was going to be. Buyer had every chance to A. walk away with his money and buy different heads, B. Request to have heads checked before purchase, C. write up an agreement to state if further damage was found then a refund should be issued with in "x" amount of days. D. ask for said shops reports of the heads being checked, E. bring someone with head knowledge to look at said heads at the time of sale.
When stuff is sold in "As-Is" condition.....doesn't that mean you buy it, you take it, its now yours. Not you take it, you get a quote done, said repairs are more then you thought, i give you your cash back?
i see the valves don't match what was originally in it, Brian advised that these were good for naturally aspirated only, and yada yada yada.
So what your saying is that Brian knew about a potential issue with them as he advised these shouldent be on anything but a naturally aspirated car? These were not your words, but in context that's what i see? if there was no issue when he sold them then why would he say that?
as far as the valves not matching, whos to say the guy who sold the heads to Brad dident take them apart or something and swap out? if you dident notice they wernt titanium, then how would he since he is not a head expert either. he was selling an item based on how it was sold to him and the best of his knowledge.
im not defending either party as far as condition or whos who and whats what and all that.
my opinion was that used RACE heads were bought with a KNOWN AT TIME OF SALE potential issue. Said issue was larger then he thought it was going to be. Buyer had every chance to A. walk away with his money and buy different heads, B. Request to have heads checked before purchase, C. write up an agreement to state if further damage was found then a refund should be issued with in "x" amount of days. D. ask for said shops reports of the heads being checked, E. bring someone with head knowledge to look at said heads at the time of sale.
When stuff is sold in "As-Is" condition.....doesn't that mean you buy it, you take it, its now yours. Not you take it, you get a quote done, said repairs are more then you thought, i give you your cash back?
raroz28
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The entire statement he made was full of assumptions which give Brad benefit of the doubt.
Nice of him, but not practical or probable.
nitrouspete
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MarkVIII93- yea, i had your girlfriend type it up for me. on a nicer note, your looking at it from the sellers angle only cuz your still butt hurt about ur recent online buy. the difference is you were told you were getting one thing and got something totally wrong and mis-matched. He saw what he was getting, knew he would need to have stuff done, worked out a price difference and made his choice.
Smooth- im not shady at all. last time i checked, an as is sale, is an as is sale....even more so when you know ur taking a risk before you buy it as issues you've seen. so how is that shady? please explain.
89-lx- are you not responsible for checking over your own parts when you buy them? if i look at something, and someone does not have receipts, then i assume it dident happen unless i can physically see it.
Raroz28- So the statements made by Brian are statements of assumptions. wheres the evidence that Brad was told this about these heads before he bought them and that they had these parts and work done when he bought them? and you say the statements i made give brad the benefit of the doubt....this is what a judge is going to see..the benefit of the doubt.
you guys are a trip. These were on his engine in his car which was running at the time for the buyer to see and you think he knew of these issues like it was some scam. Brad wont give the cash back to a guy who took a risk on some sold as is parts and you guys are putting your self in Pax shoes instead of looking at all angles. If that makes me shady for looking at the entire picture instead of looking at it from the buyers angle only, then say what you want. i really dont care. i'm done with this.
please post up the court results when its all said and done though. i'm interested to see what the outcome is.
Smooth- im not shady at all. last time i checked, an as is sale, is an as is sale....even more so when you know ur taking a risk before you buy it as issues you've seen. so how is that shady? please explain.
89-lx- are you not responsible for checking over your own parts when you buy them? if i look at something, and someone does not have receipts, then i assume it dident happen unless i can physically see it.
Raroz28- So the statements made by Brian are statements of assumptions. wheres the evidence that Brad was told this about these heads before he bought them and that they had these parts and work done when he bought them? and you say the statements i made give brad the benefit of the doubt....this is what a judge is going to see..the benefit of the doubt.
you guys are a trip. These were on his engine in his car which was running at the time for the buyer to see and you think he knew of these issues like it was some scam. Brad wont give the cash back to a guy who took a risk on some sold as is parts and you guys are putting your self in Pax shoes instead of looking at all angles. If that makes me shady for looking at the entire picture instead of looking at it from the buyers angle only, then say what you want. i really dont care. i'm done with this.
please post up the court results when its all said and done though. i'm interested to see what the outcome is.
MarkVIII93
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That explains it. Lol. I agree that to an extent the buyer should be responsible. But from the sounds of it, the heads were cobbled together. There may have been some hidden issues that could only be identified by an expert after a thorough cleaning. I don't know brad or pax personally so my opinion on this whole thing stays neutral.
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nitrouspete
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haha figured you'd laugh Brandon.....
maybe they could work out a better deal or somthing i agree. and i only know Brad from 2 parts buys. i do agree that the problems may have not been seen until a cleaning and MPI check was done. all i put was my opinion. but once i start getting called shady and that a mental note to not buy parts from me was said, its kinda bullshit.
