Channel 4 Undercover - Ford Employees boozin it up

DBK said:
I'm glad you feel good about contributing to the collapse of the American automotive industry.

$96 bucks an hour to do work you could train a chimp to do. Awesome.

Well, DBK your statement should piss me off but because your so uninformed as to what I do at my job I will let it go. IM sure a chimp let alone you would not make it a week at my job without killing yourself or someone else around you. For that reason alone is why Im paid that much.:pow:
 
PurpleHaze said:
Well, DBK your statement should piss me off but because your so uninformed as to what I do at my job I will let it go. IM sure a chimp let alone you would not make it a week at my job without killing yourself or someone else around you. For that reason alone is why Im paid that much.:pow:

So what you're saying is that the chimp could almost make it a week?
 
mdhmi said:
Let's be nice guys - you act like UAW wages aren't based on supply and demand. :lol:
lolol supply and demand what's that? It sounds crazy it would never work!!!

I got lost at the invisible hand thing??? Help!
 
PurpleHaze said:
The chimp a week yeah but you I would give a day.

So we're in agreement: You get paid $96 bucks an hour, or better yet get paid to sit at home, to do something we could train Chimps to do.
 
mdhmi said:
Let's be nice guys - you act like UAW wages aren't based on supply and demand. :lol:

What the fuck is supply and demand?

The best part? The total head-in-the-sand approach to the consequences. What are all these people going to do when it all collapses and they won't get paid $15 for what they used to get paid $50?
 
PurpleHaze said:
Just to rub some salt in the wounds of the whiny ass crying anti union titty babies, this Tuesday I will be at home with pay. Or if I go in it will be triple time. Whoo hoo $96.00 Hr. God bless the UAW.

What wounds?

I thought grown men didn't go around bragging about how much money they make. Maybe that's just professionals I'm thinking of.

Also, what you're saying is your normal rate is $32/hour.....are you sure that's worth bragging about?

I thought this was a civil debate about the necessity and/or effectiveness of the UAW?
 
DBK said:
So we're in agreement: You get paid $96 bucks an hour, or better yet get paid to sit at home, to do something we could train Chimps to do.
If you read it right that is triple time as its a Holiday. Im skilled trades and no I really dont think the chimp could do my job. You may make it if you keep your hands in your pockets and dont touch anything. Well I have to go to work now see ya.
 
Fryguy302 said:
What wounds?

I thought grown men didn't go around bragging about how much money they make. Maybe that's just professionals I'm thinking of.

Also, what you're saying is your normal rate is $32/hour.....are you sure that's worth bragging about?

I thought this was a civil debate about the necessity and/or effectiveness of the UAW?

The UAW is more then just line workers. There are the skilled trades.
 
Im sure all of you if you were offered a job that paid that much and was in the UAW you would turn it down because you think you should be paid that much.
 
DBK said:
So we're in agreement: You get paid $96 bucks an hour, or better yet get paid to sit at home, to do something we could train Chimps to do.

How many chimps can repair a large machine or run electrical? It's only $96 an hour on a holiday - it's normally $32 per hours which is roughly $66,500 per year. That's decent money, but that is hardly out of line for a skilled worker.
 
mdhmi said:
How many chimps can repair a large machine or run electrical? It's only $96 an hour on a holiday - it's normally $32 per hours which is roughly $66,500 per year. That's decent money, but that is hardly out of line for a skilled worker.

I guess we'll have to round some up and try and find out.

Look, obviously I'm kidding. I know there are some pretty complex jobs that go into the production of a motor vehicle. But my man wanted to be funny and "rub it in" that he was going to get paid to sit at home, or get paid $96 an hour, so I let him have it. It's that attitude that deserves complete mockery.

It may be worth rubbing in today while you're getting the fat paycheck, but 3 years from now when Ford and GM are both bankrupt, the government dissolves their legacy obligations, the union is further broken, and the entire state of Michigan is fucked even further because we rely on billions of dollars in supplier sales and services that are ruined, it will be decidedly unfunny.
 
P.S Yes, people all over the country turn down the higher wages the UAW would inevitably pay every year. The UAW has been trying to organize all over the south at transplants for 2 decades and failed.

Since 1980 union membership has dropped about 66%.
 
Exactly! When there are no plants in union states because they can actually pay what the job should pay in non-union states I'm sure we'll hear a bunch of crying from former leeches but TOO BAD SO SAD!
 
anybody at Ford have you noticed the calander for 07 is only to Feb? why because all the holidays will be changing with the contract Neog in Feb. I hope all you union guys enjoy tomorrow because it will be the last one along with the christmas to NY shut down
 
PurpleHaze said:
Im sure all of you if you were offered a job that paid that much and was in the UAW you would turn it down because you think you should be paid that much.

hell no i wouldnt turn it down! i would still drive my old toyota though:icon_mrgr
 
My only problem with the unions is that they use the excuse "Why should I have to take a hit when management makes bad decisions?" I guess that would be legitimate if they didn't profit when management makes good ones. They want it both ways.

-Geoff
 
outlawss said:
WELL THE REASON MY "PANTIES ARE IN A BUNCH" IS BECAUSE I BET 75% OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARDS JOBS ARE IN SOME WAY AFFILITED TO SUPPLYING THE BIG THREE. THE COMPANY I MANAGE IS A SUPPLIER AND WHEN I HAVE TO HEAR ALL THE BULLSHIT THESE GUYS PULL IT PISSES ME OFF BECAUSE WHEN THEY ARE DOING BAD ITS NOT GOOD FOR THE REST OF US. SO YES IM A JACKASS PISSED OFF BECAUSE THESE FUCKERS ARE RISKING PULLING FOOD OUT OF MY KIDS MOUTH!:pow: ANY OF US SUPPLYING THE BIG THREE ARE EFFECTED BY THIS BULLSHIT.....

Agreed.:wink:
 
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