2010 University of Michigan Football Thread

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1. Under Carr, in his 13 years as head coach, he had 8 seasons which were an 8-4 season or worse. That's just over half of his seasons. Assuming Rod gets another year and he's 8-4, He's right on par with Carr's record. 50% of his seasons sucking.
I guess I understand now why your logic is just so retarded... you've got your FACTS wrong to start with...
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1995 Michigan 9-4
1996 Michigan 8-4
1997 Michigan 12-0
1998 Michigan 10-3
1999 Michigan 10-2
2000 Michigan 9-3
2001 Michigan 8-4
2002 Michigan 10-3
2003 Michigan 10-3
2004 Michigan 9-3
2005 Michigan 7-5
2006 Michigan 11-2
2007 Michigan 9-4
There, I bolded the "8-4 or worse" seasons for you. Somehow, when you counted them, you got EIGHT. When it's actually THREE. You moron.
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This year Michigan has allowed an average of 33.81 points per game. Carr's last season, and arguably his WORST, they allowed 20.25 points per game.

I literally can't talk to you about this any more. Mike is right, you just don't get it.

Arguing with Ryan literally makes you understand the whole "banging your head against a wall" thing. Until now it was just an expression.

Lloyd had MULTIPLE years with the defense in the top 20 and even top 10 in the nation. Now we're just barely cracking the top ONE FUCKING HUNDRED! out of 120! The collapse is absurd.
 
Once again... look at these numbers.. overall defense:

2002: Michigan #27
2003: Michigan #7
2004: Michigan #38
2005: Michigan #22
2006: Michigan #8
2007: Michigan #23
ENTER RICH ROD:
2008: Michigan #81
2009: Michigan #80
2010: Michigan #106
 
The records Justin is showing includes their victories and losses in bowl games. If you eliminate the bowl games (which my original post indicated) then there is 8 seasons as such... moron.
 
The records Justin is showing includes their victories and losses in bowl games. If you eliminate the bowl games (which my original post indicated) then there is 8 seasons as such... moron.

Well, if that is the case, then this statement is wrong. Dipshit:
1. Under Carr, in his 13 years as head coach, he had 8 seasons which were an 8-4 season or worse. That's just over half of his seasons. Assuming Rod gets another year and he's 8-4, He's right on par with Carr's record. 50% of his seasons sucking.
Because that means IF RichRod goes 8-4, as you IF'ed... then that would mean he's done it 1 out of 4 times, which is 25%. Not 50%. Not so good at math, are ya?
 
Well I disagree with you wholeheartedly Ryan. It's time for him to go. The Rich Rod experiment failed, miserably. You can't deny that the team has the worse fundamentals of any Michigan team you or I have ever seen. Compound that with embarrassing losses, a non existent defense, and NCAA violations, he's gone. We'll just have to agree to disagree, and leave it at that.


I don't disagree with much of that, but what is the alternative? Remember, it was Martin who fucked this thing up to begin with.

1. does Harbaugh even want the job? Hell, we can't even get him to come to a dinner that's honoring his Michigan's team's 10-1-1 record in 85. How can we say he's a true Michigan man when he's been talking shit about our program for the last few years and won't represent his own teamates on a night honoring them?

2. If he doesn't want the job, who do you hire? Miami's coach? Indiana's? There's not exactly a huge available pool of coaches. Miles isn't going anywhere. He's going to finish in the top 10 again likely at LSU and if I remember correctly he signed a huge deal back in the original searching days to keep him at LSU for a while.

3. Do you keep Rich for another year and tell him there'll be talk of an extension if there's true reform?

I don't count the sanctions as anything. It was a lame attack on the program and every coach out there knows it. We gave ourself enough of a punishment to make a statement and we're moving on . The offense is impressive. OSU is one of the top ranked defenses in the nation and look at the yards we put up on them. Of course it means nothing if you're just going to turn the ball over at the 20 yard line every time. So there's room for improvement. Improvement that comes with playing games. This was Drobs first year on the field full time. He'll adjust and learn. The rest of the team can have the same said. THe problem obviously is special teams and defense. I don't know anything about their recruiting class for those spots, so it's hard to say, but the unease about who will be coaching is not going to help the situation at all. Brandon needs to come out and just say what he's going to do. If he has no clue, then he's in the wrong job.
 
Well, if that is the case, then this statement is wrong. Dipshit:

Because that means IF RichRod goes 8-4, as you IF'ed... then that would mean he's done it 1 out of 4 times, which is 25%. Not 50%. Not so good at math, are ya?

So what you're trying to say is that 7-5 isn't sucking to you? So what are you mad about? I didn't say he would have 2 seasons at 8-4. Your reading comprehension skills aren't that strong are they?
 
Ryan, you have to extend his contract or fire Rich Rod. If he only has the one year left, he won't be able to recruit.
 
This is the only year they will be able to grab Harbaugh. He'll be in the pro's otherwise.
 
So what you're trying to say is that 7-5 isn't sucking to you? So what are you mad about? I didn't say he would have 2 seasons at 8-4. Your reading comprehension skills aren't that strong are they?

And yes, 7-5 does suck. What is UM this year? 7-5? That means RichRod has had three shitty years and no good ones.

And who did UM beat?

UConn, Notre Dame, Bowling Green, UMass (DII), Indiana, Illinois and Purdue. Are you proud of any of those wins, Ryan?
 
After app state all of those are stellar victories lol Illinois and Purdue aren't exactly cakewalks as they obviously took out teams far better than UM. I'm not proud with the way this has turned out. I don't think there's an alternative though to extending RichRod. I'm seeing enough improvement though to merit me not wanting to throw in the towel on him just yet.
 
Rich Rod basically begged for his job last night at the bust. Very telling that he has not yet gotten an extension. This idiot is as good as gone.

http://detnews.com/article/20101203/OPINION03/12030414/Rich-Rod

If I were Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon, I would have added one more song to Thursday night's sing-along starring football coach Rich Rodriguez and Josh Groban.

After Rodriguez embarrassed himself and the program by playing "You Raise Me Up" at the annual football bust I would have asked the DJ to play "Hit the Road Jack."And don't you come back no more, no more, no more.

I have spoken to a couple of people who were at the bust and they said they were "in shock" when Rodriguez turned the banquet into an infomercial to keep his job as head football coach.

The annual banquet is to honor the seniors and outstanding players on the team. It is not to get on your hands and knees and beg for forgiveness. One more time I bring up the question: Can anybody give me one reason why this man should keep his job?

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He is 6-18 in the Big Ten and he is more like Muddy Waters, Bobby Williams and John L. Smith than Bo Schembechler or Lloyd Carr.

A Michigan man? He looks more like a mess of a man.

Rodriguez became choked up while professing his love for Michigan football and told folks that he wants to be a Michigan man. He wanted folks to hold hands.

It was not a feel-good moment for people who want the best for the program.

His actions made the program look weak and soft. And now maybe we can see why Michigan lacked enough toughness to compete with the better teams in the Big Ten.

This was one of the most embarrassing moments in Michigan football history. It is something Buckeyes and Badgers and Spartans will laugh at for years to come.

Rich Rod did not look like a Michigan man. He looked like a guy losing it.

"My name is Rich Rodriguez. I'm honored to be the head coach at the University of Michigan," he told the crowd. "I hope you realize I truly want to be a Michigan man."Actually, I am hoping he quits and sends his resume out and becomes a Miami man before that opening is filled. Rich Rod is more of a Miami man than a Michigan man. I think he might actually do well there. The culture seems to fit him better.

No Michigan man would put on this type of performance. No Michigan man would cry for his job and turn a football banquet into an "Up with People" concert. Someone described Rich Rod as a guy giving a bad speech to the bride and groom at a wedding.

The only difference is the best man is usually tanked so he has an excuse. Rich Rod has no excuse for this self-indulgent and selfish act.

Usually, we see performances like this from Lions coaches when they finally realize they have no shot at winning. We saw Wayne Fontes politick for his job and Bobby Ross make fog horn sounds and Marty Morhinweg storming off on a motorcycle.

Usually, Michigan coaches are proud, strong and forceful.

That's what a Michigan man is. And the weak and sniffling Rich Rod hardly looked like a Michigan man.

Now, let's all hold hands and sing "Rich Rod go away, you ruined a once great program."

From The Detroit News: http://detnews.com/article/20101203...od’s-performance-‘embarrassing’#ixzz174mSsUu4
 
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RichRod's performance at the banquet, as much as his record, will get him canned. All in front of Brandon (who must have been thinking WTF).
 
If Brandon doesn't have a replacement in place he had better not can him. Otherwise the situation we're in now will seem like a great time compared to what we will have.
 
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