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Pwraddr said:
Why? I agreed with some of it and was going to comment and it was gone.
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cause i dont want to argue about it, i have my opinions but dont know enough about it. i think a trans brake puts just as much shock on the rear as a stick does. if you let that button go at 6000 it feels just like when you let the clutch out.
 
johnquick302 said:
cause i dont want to argue about it, i have my opinions but dont know enough about it. i think a trans brake puts just as much shock on the rear as a stick does. if you let that button go at 6000 it feels just like when you let the clutch out.
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I really respect that! I +1 you on a previous post and just sent a PM. I hope I didn't come across as argumentative.

Have a good night!!
 
I didn't think they would shock as much as a clutch. I have been talking to mike ridings about it too for awhile. unless your right on the stall speed I think is would soften the hit a little.
ps I'm not arguing either
 
Pwraddr said:
I really respect that! I +1 you on a previous post and just sent a PM. I hope I didn't come across as argumentative.

Have a good night!!
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its cool, sticks leave hard but i think its more of a sound and steep first gear that makes it feel so fast. i still feel a brake shocks it more. there might be a lil bit of pull still with the clutch pushed in that is why alot of people have line locks with a stick cause there is still a load on the gear somewhat. with a trans break there is none. the car stops when you push the trans brake.
 
1BADAIR said:
I didn't think they would shock as much as a clutch. I have been talking to mike ridings about it too for awhile. unless your right on the stall speed I think is would soften the hit a little.
ps I'm not arguing either
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i dont want to argue either but jsut for the hell of it, this is a lil vid i have of my car with a trans brake. nothing soft about this leave and it looks like it shocks the hell out of the tires to me.

 
1BADAIR said:
i don't think the shock is the same with a convertor
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This is correct. A convertor is a fluid coupler and even though it seems like it leaves hard off a trans-brake, which it does, its not as sharp of an impact as a stick car has. The stick having a purely mechanical coupling, and in most race applications, no dampening, is significantly harder on drive line components. This is why MOST stick applications will have a pro gear in the axle and that is used for dampening the shock.

In nearly all applications, a 5 speed car will leave harder than an automatic, but the loss found in the 5 speed appilcation especially a diaphragm style clutch setup, is in the launch and at the shift points.

The easiest way this can be noticed is, a 5 speed setup (unless its a liberty style with a VERY expensive slipper clutch), will drag the motor down at launch and in between gears, this may not even be able to be heard, but its still happening. Where as, an automatic with the benefit of the fluid coupling will hit the launch or shift RPM and progressively increase in RPM rather than a drop and then increase.

The other problem that causes a stick to be more harsh on driveline components is, when an auto car is on the brake, everything in the driveline is "loaded" so to speak, where as a stick car is relaxed using all of the lash in the system. When the stick car launches, all of these little gaps are taken up and parts are literally slammed into each other.



hope this makes sense.
 
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