Question for the muscle building guys...

Measuring food, counting calories and other nutrients is a job. My girl and I have been measuring for about 2 or 3 weeks now. I was eating right before, but now, I'm eating the right amount also. We have both noticed changes in ourselves and each other. I've dropped an additional 3lbs since measuring. Also put on some size in my arms and chest. Legs as well. Boxers getting tigher. lol She has also dropped an additional 3 or 4lbs. It's a lot of work and time and a little extra money as well, but if you put in the effort, it will show.

Diet is the biggest part of it. Fuel your body. And like Ronnie Coleman says...."You wanna get big, you gotta eat big." As he stuffed his face full of meat, potatoes and all types of other food. Ronnie Coleman also said "Everybody wanna be a bodybuilder, ain't nobody wanna lift this heavy-ass weight!" As he squatted 800lbs. I met Ronnie at the Arnold Classic a week and half ago. His hands were like grabbing a 16oz boxing glove.
 
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If u want to put on good quality weight, u must lift heavy. Bottom line. Squat, dead-lifts & benching are the three key elements along with lots of protein & GOOD carbs. There is no easy route, no magical pills, and even if u use gear, everything I mentioned still holds true.
My background? I have been training for 15 years & started doing strongman & power lifting last year. I competed in middle weight (231lbs) last year & moved up to heavy weight this year (270lbs @ 13% bf). The level I'm at right now is really tough & I found out training is a team sport, surround yourself with good lifters and u will get stronger.
 
If u want to put on good quality weight, u must lift heavy. Bottom line. Squat, dead-lifts & benching are the three key elements along with lots of protein & GOOD carbs. There is no easy route, no magical pills, and even if u use gear, everything I mentioned still holds true.
My background? I have been training for 15 years & started doing strongman & power lifting last year. I competed in middle weight (231lbs) last year & moved up to heavy weight this year (270lbs @ 13% bf). The level I'm at right now is really tough & I found out training is a team sport, surround yourself with good lifters and u will get stronger.

Great advice.
 
Extremely bad joint pain at times, blood pressure,etc. One guy had started to get an odd cart growth too. Granted, they may have been OD as a lot of guys have the "bigger is better" attitude. I guess what I was trying to say is I'd MUCH rather run Test/Tren/Deca....any of those over HGH. (obviously not all together ;)) GH price is pretty high too.

i can see the joint pain.. carpal tunnel is pretty common. ...but you need to be hitting 6-10's a day and YES that does get expensive but never seen high blood pressure from GH. I have a lot of good insight into GH use through clinical studies and see both sides of the coin.
I can tell you for a FACT you will stay leaner on while on GH (even if your diet slips) you can get away with a LOT.
 
If u want to put on good quality weight, u must lift heavy. Bottom line. Squat, dead-lifts & benching are the three key elements along with lots of protein & GOOD carbs. There is no easy route, no magical pills, and even if u use gear, everything I mentioned still holds true.
My background? I have been training for 15 years & started doing strongman & power lifting last year. I competed in middle weight (231lbs) last year & moved up to heavy weight this year (270lbs @ 13% bf). The level I'm at right now is really tough & I found out training is a team sport, surround yourself with good lifters and u will get stronger.
soo TRUE...sooo true...
I train with Matt Kroc and can tell you my strength has gone through the roof.
 
If u want to put on good quality weight, u must lift heavy. Bottom line. Squat, dead-lifts & benching are the three key elements along with lots of protein & GOOD carbs. There is no easy route, no magical pills, and even if u use gear, everything I mentioned still holds true.
My background? I have been training for 15 years & started doing strongman & power lifting last year. I competed in middle weight (231lbs) last year & moved up to heavy weight this year (270lbs @ 13% bf). The level I'm at right now is really tough & I found out training is a team sport, surround yourself with good lifters and u will get stronger.

i can see the joint pain.. carpal tunnel is pretty common. ...but you need to be hitting 6-10's a day and YES that does get expensive but never seen high blood pressure from GH. I have a lot of good insight into GH use through clinical studies and see both sides of the coin.
I can tell you for a FACT you will stay leaner on while on GH (even if your diet slips) you can get away with a LOT.

Do whatever these two tell you to do and you'll be on the right path.
 
LITTLEMAGS...Question.... I was talking about Ronnie Coleman and while I was goofing around on You Tube I came across this video. Why does he fry hamburgers and used tons of BBQ on everything? He also puts it on his chicken. Is this because he trains so hard, it doens't matter what he eats??? Every sauce I've looked at, is loaded with sugar and or HFCS.


I thought guys like this should eat really really clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v25e7Hpm4qQ&feature=related
 
yes.. you do...
you can always drive up to ypsi and train with me sometime at PH on Huron st.

Yeah, it's not too far really. One of the newer guys at work was a trainer there.
I miss having Greg's Gym here in town. It was a nice gym definitely geared towards body building, rather than a million elliptical machines.
 
Don't forget to sleep!

We need a real gym in Milan.

For sure! I saw a sign for one in downtown, next to Roy's... but that disappeared quickly. I got excited for a minute. I'm slowly but surely putting together one in my basement... best I can do for now. With the baby, I can barely get out of the house...
 
LITTLEMAGS...Question.... I was talking about Ronnie Coleman and while I was goofing around on You Tube I came across this video. Why does he fry hamburgers and used tons of BBQ on everything? He also puts it on his chicken. Is this because he trains so hard, it doens't matter what he eats??? Every sauce I've looked at, is loaded with sugar and or HFCS.


I thought guys like this should eat really really clean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v25e7Hpm4qQ&feature=related

i can tell you one thing..Ronnie was a metabolic FREAK...
plus the incorporation of metabolic aids make that type of eating a lot easier. (see my previous posts..hint..hint)

I WISH i had that type of metabolism...would make my life a LOT easier. I feel like Iam a constant diet myself.
 
For sure! I saw a sign for one in downtown, next to Roy's... but that disappeared quickly. I got excited for a minute. I'm slowly but surely putting together one in my basement... best I can do for now. With the baby, I can barely get out of the house...

There have been two in that location. The first was Greg's Gym (great gym), and after that there was a "gym" geared towards women. I guess there just isn't a market here in town for a gym.
 
i can tell you one thing..Ronnie was a metabolic FREAK...
plus the incorporation of metabolic aids make that type of eating a lot easier. (see my previous posts..hint..hint)

I WISH i had that type of metabolism...would make my life a LOT easier. I feel like Iam a constant diet myself.

haha...yeah, I get the hint....hint...:lol: He was a big dude. Saw him in Columbus during the Arnold Classic a couple weeks ago. I got my pics iwth him and he was a gigantic man. Short, but huuuge.

Dom...one more question...I always feel guilty using BBQ sauce on my clean chicken. But sometimes I get so bored eating so plain. I would like to eat more salads too but a lot of dressings are garbage. My goal is to just cut most of the fat on my body and build muscle while doing so. Not trying to get "big". I'm not trying to get completely ripped/shredded. Definitions is good, abs are slowly coming in. I just want to be a fit and strong 185-195lbs. I'm currently 192. Should I feel guilty eating sauce or dressings say only once a week just to give my diet some flavor??
 
sigh** long story shot lol you've gotta work out right/sleep right/eat right.. the above diets are awesome so i'll show you a "mass buiding program" i started at 165ish now i'm 200ish i've been 210 but thats a lot of food!!! here you go..


The Training Program
Exercises Used:
Squat variation
Deadlift variations
Dips
Bench
Chin Ups/Pullups
Military Press(Shoulder Presses)
Rows
Remember to try to accelerate the weight with as much speed and force as possible on
every rep, stop your set when your speed slows significantly. This is a key factor to
makin this shit work right. Your goal is to shoot for a total number of forceful reps for
each exercise so we are not going to focus on “x” amount of reps for “x” amount of sets.
There are loading guidelines to reach those total reps per exercise. for example for day
one you are gonna choose a weight that you cant lift more than 6 times with good form
for a total of 24 reps total. In other words if on the first “set” you get six reps before your
speed slows,rest,on the second you get 6 again,rest,then you only get 4 on the third
because the speed slowed on four instead of six, thats okay just keep doing your sets
until you reach roughly 24 total reps for that exercise. you are lookin for 24 quality fast
as possible forceful reps, no grinding slow as fuck reps that shit is useless because your
muscles are not firing on all cylinders at that point and who wants to run on anything
less than 8 cylinders,your body wont make the power...now do you get it. And dont look
at the fucking clock with stupid timed rest periods...you need to learn to auto regulate
based off of what your scrawny body is telling you. If you feel like you can get to your
next set ten seconds after then get to it, if you feel like you need thirty seconds to put
your best effort forward then rest for thirty seconds. Just go when you “feel” it. But dont
take more than a minute and a half ever it kills intensity and focus. The reason i say to
do it this way is that your body is going to be different everyday depending on alot of
factors such as your daily activities,sleep quality,stress level,etc. Some days you will
feel like the fuckin incredible hulk and others you will feel like...well...you. ha ha.
anyway time to push some weight.
Day 1: 24 total reps with 6rep max load
Ex1: Squat 24reps
Ex2: Barbell Rows(palms facing up)24 reps
Ex3: Dumbell Bench Press(Flat) 24 reps
Ex4: weighted sit ups 24 reps
Day 2: Rest
Day 3: 40 total reps with a 10rep max load
Ex1: Deadlift
Ex2: Dips(lean forward more when do this it will work your chest a little harder)
Ex3: Pullups(wider grip and palms face away from you) (use a pull down machine)
Ex4: Lunges(alternate legs from left to right)
Ex5: hanging knee raises(good for abs but also will help to decompress your spine from
the deadlifts)
Day 4: Rest
Day 5: 50 total reps with 15rep max load
Ex1: Front Squat(hold a dumbell with both hands so its vertical and kind of resting
against your chest and widen your stance just a little bit further than shoulder width and
your toes point out slightly.)
Ex2: Chin ups(palms facing you or use the pull down machine if you cannot get 15 reps
in a row on first set)
Ex3: Military Presses(shoulder presses)
Ex4:Back Extensions
no ab work on this day because they get plenty of stimulation during the other exercises
trying to stabilize the your body and the forces being applied to it
Progression: each week add just a little bit more weight to each exercise in order to
keep the load to reps within each parameter for that day. once you exceed the max rep
range by two reps then you gotta add weight to get back in the range for that load.(so if
you can do 8 reps on your first set on day1 then you need to add weight to get it back
down to 6 reps max). After four weeks of this program asign the total rep numbers to
different days so day five reps would be for the day one exercises,for example.
So there it is bro...its simple but oh so effective if done properly. Remember you gotta
get in the fuckin zone and move that weight as fast as possible under control and with
good form. obviously when the load is higher its not gonna move as fast but its the
intension to get it from stop to start as fast as possible. lower the weight quickly but with
control and then explode up instantly, no big pause at the bottom. as soon as it comes
down bang it back up...it should be a fluid movement. good quality reps dude.
its a good program and i have gained very well on it. Now go get huge and eat your ass
off with good quality food. lots of protien and healthy carbs at every meal.
eggs,oatmeal,bagels,peanut
butter,steak,chicken,fish,pork,oliveoil,pasta,rice,potatoes,yams,green veggies,protein
shakes before during and after your work out,and a big breakfast with carbs and protein.
lots of water
you will put on size with these simple rules
 
keep this in the back of your mind
when your
35 years old and blow a disc in your back from a car accident or you fall off somthing or tear up a knee skiing or somthing and you dont lift all the time anymore it all turns to fat and its a bitch to loose it!
 
Basically what everyone is saying, to get big you need to lift heavy, eat heavy and get a lot of sleep. Rest is just as important as training. All easier said then done.
 
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