My friends dog was shot and killed by the Birmingham police last night.
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LilJuicedCoupe
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my dog got tazed in the far corner of my backyard.....they could have simply shut the gate.....Instead they had to be hardasses like these cops....i wish there were honest cops left
Topless_Pony_00
Club Member
The police said he "was on the attack"....unbelievable
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/28744462/detail.html
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/28744462/detail.html
Makes me sick.
DBK
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I like how you can justify shooting in a neighborhood in Birmingham because a dog is barking. Unless the dog was in the process of killing someone, how about we not potentially fuckin shoot Granny with a stray bullet trying to pacify a dog on a porch? Any bite marks on the cops?
Bullshit. Usually these stupid city cops can't wait to get to a scene where they might get to shoot someone or something. Sounds like it to me on this one.
Bullshit. Usually these stupid city cops can't wait to get to a scene where they might get to shoot someone or something. Sounds like it to me on this one.
DetroitStyle
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I bet they were all high-fives afterwards. "Yeah man, you showed Old Yellow that Birmingham PD don't fuck around!"
Hugger Z
Official Motown Events Director
Saw the story on the 6 0'clock news. That is messed up. The dog was trying to get into the backyard. Why couldn't they have just opened the gate and let him go in there? Would that be so hard? Then when he was injured he crawled back to the porch trying to go to his safe place. That is just wrong on so many accounts. Why the hell would they shoot him twice again? Couldn't take him injured to a vet? And then hose down the deck? What right do they have to clean up their mess? There should have been an investigation relating to the shooting. Them hosing off the deck removed any evidence that could have been assessed. That is just way too fishy sounding. If there is a dog complaint they should have not sent any cops that were afraid of dogs. Sounds to me like one or all of them were......
Mclovin
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Awesome ! next time i see someone suspicious in my neighborhood Im calling that PD.. someone walking the streets with his pants around his knees and his hands in his pockets OBVIOUSLY is packing an AR-15 and dealing drugs so they'll come blow him away for sure ! GIVE ME A BREAK ! It's time for some real answers and justice here ! Those "cops" need to be punished! I hope that owner takes the city for a hell of a ride on the justice coaster.
Hell even if it was a Rabid Pit bull/Saint Bearnard mix 4 shots to kill a dog ?? Can we say abuse of power ?? sickening the shit these "cops" get away with.
Hell even if it was a Rabid Pit bull/Saint Bearnard mix 4 shots to kill a dog ?? Can we say abuse of power ?? sickening the shit these "cops" get away with.
braxx
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Let me play devils advocate here. How do the police know what yard a dog belongs in? Also the article said: "police said the dog was off his owner's property" so it wouldn't make sense to allow or let a dog into a yard that you aren't 100% sure it belongs in. My neighbors dog got out 1 week ago. I sure as hell would be pissed if a cop let that loose dog into my yard because he thought it belonged there. You never know who is in that back yard. There could be kids in the back yard and you want a cop to make the decision to put the dog in the yard? If the owner was not present to direct the cops to let the dog into the yard I don't think it is a cops job to guess which yard the dog belongs in.
I would guess (Just a guess) that the dog had fatal wounds and it was to stop any suffering. Not that it makes what they do ok, but I bet that is why they did it.
Well along the same line of thinking as my first reply if the cops can't be positive of where the dog belongs and the report did say the dog was not on it's own property I would hope they hose off my deck if they shot my neighbors dog on my deck.
Also, I can't think of any thing that would be "figured out" by an investigation seeing / finding blood on a porch/deck. It's not like they can hid the fact that they shot a dog 4 times. Washing away blood can't change that fact.
With that being said, I do think they over reacted and I doubt that the dog had to be shot. I will assume that since the police have responded calls 4 times related to this dog, they figured they would "fix" the problem there own way. Again, I don't think what they did was right, just trying to mention the other things that might of went through the cops heads at the time.
DetroitStyle
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Come on Josh, that's just not solid thinking. I realize you're playing devil's advocate, but that's a big stretch... :lol:
Here's a novel thought... how about if they stop and ASK? It sounds like there were neighbors out. Before they decide to KILL THE DOG, they could check and make sure? They could call animal control? This dog was on it's own property! There are plenty of dogs who are either well trained or restrained by invisible fences. Should cops just be able to patrol the neighborhood and look for dogs not on a leash and shoot them? Saying "Oh well. We weren't sure who's house it was, so we shot the dog to be safe!"
By witness accounts, this dog was doing nothing more than barking on it's own porch at the time the officers approached. They shouldn't have done a damn thing at that point.
braxx
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At what time of night did this happen? My city does not have animal control after 5pm or on the weekends. They send the police outside of the 8am-5pm M-F schedule.
Where did it say it was on it's own porch? I read it was not on it's own property and I read that it was on A porch. Nowhere in the article did it say the dog was on it's own porch. It might be a play on words but it does say the dog was off the owners property.
All these neighbors say it was a good dog blah blah blah.... Well, one or more of those neighbors have called the police on that dog 4 or 5 times. Seems to me if a neighbor knew the dog was nice, they would put it in the yard. If a neighbor/witness that says it was a good dog can't be bothered with putting the dog back in the yard, what makes you think a cop would/should take the time. I know I would step up and put my neighbors dog back in his yard but if your neighbors aren't willing to put the dog back in the yard OR aren't stepping in when the cops get there to tell the cops the dog is nice and that it belongs there might be a problem with your dog.
Every time some low life thug gets killed by the police. What's the first thing you hear? He was a good boy. He was a church going boy. He didn't do anything wrong..etc....
99% of the time, witnesses say the bad guy wasn't doing anything wrong and the cops shot him for no reason. Just as much as you can't believe the cops story, I don't believe what witnesses have to say.
I don't know how it went down, but it's a shame it happened. If the police acted without just cause. I hope they get punished to the fullest extent.
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AutoEuphoria
Captain Slow
Proper way to handle it:
1) See dog on porch
2) Look at address
3) Ask neighbor if that dog lives at that address
4) Find out whose house it is and what their work number is
5) Call them and inform them of the situation
1) See dog on porch
2) Look at address
3) Ask neighbor if that dog lives at that address
4) Find out whose house it is and what their work number is
5) Call them and inform them of the situation
Golden
Club Member
I wasn't there, so who knows what truly happened. Witnesses aren't exactly reliable all the time.
Regardless, poor dog. Even if the dog had been VERY aggressive, no way would I let the dog live after shooting it. I'd have put it down immediately, and even then I'd be very upset that I had to kill a dog. That's the part that bothers me the most, is that he suffered for 10 minutes.
Regardless, poor dog. Even if the dog had been VERY aggressive, no way would I let the dog live after shooting it. I'd have put it down immediately, and even then I'd be very upset that I had to kill a dog. That's the part that bothers me the most, is that he suffered for 10 minutes.
Detroit Gearbox
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(I know I'm going to catch hell for saying this-I feel very bad for this dog and its owner)
There's something here for everyone to learn from. You don't leave your dog unattended. Ever.
I don't know how or why his dog got loose, and my statement ("disclaimer"for all you cop haters) is not supporting the action of the officers involved, nor is it meant to amuse anyone. Its more of one that says if you love your pets, you don't put them in harms way. (that goes for people that leave their dog alone with infants too). Someone had to "complain" to the police about the dog for them to go to his address. Most likely one of his neighbors or someone on the sidewalk that walked by his home and had the dog bark at them, and they did not feel comfortable. This is a subdivision, not the country. Dogs are "animals" and their behaviour is cognitive.
Secure your pet/s, and be in control of them at all times. That's your responsibility as a pet owner.
There's something here for everyone to learn from. You don't leave your dog unattended. Ever.
I don't know how or why his dog got loose, and my statement ("disclaimer"for all you cop haters) is not supporting the action of the officers involved, nor is it meant to amuse anyone. Its more of one that says if you love your pets, you don't put them in harms way. (that goes for people that leave their dog alone with infants too). Someone had to "complain" to the police about the dog for them to go to his address. Most likely one of his neighbors or someone on the sidewalk that walked by his home and had the dog bark at them, and they did not feel comfortable. This is a subdivision, not the country. Dogs are "animals" and their behaviour is cognitive.
Secure your pet/s, and be in control of them at all times. That's your responsibility as a pet owner.
Hugger Z
Official Motown Events Director
I agree that the dog should not have been loose outside. That was the one part of the story that bothered me. They said the dog was loose and had prior complaints. My dogs are always in my yard or inside the house. When we leave, they stay inside. I do not trust leaving them out. People steal dogs from yards. So yes, I could see the concern for the dog being loose on the front porch. That is a little fishy. But the rest of what happened still bothers me and should not have happened.
Topless_Pony_00
Club Member
The dog should have not been out un harnessed or unattended, I understand and agree with that. Just because the dog was outside doesn't mean he wasn't harnessed, I have an invisible fence for my dog. For any passerby it may seem that he is left outside unattended but he is contained around my home. What if the dog mistakenly left the yard? Meter readers or maybe even the owner himself could have gone into the yard only to leave the gate open. I have also lived with some pretty ass-holeish neighbors that would pull shit like this even if the dog wasn't out to build a record of calls then just say the owner just pulled up and let the dog in.
The fact of the matter is there were witnesses. If the cops pulled up and seen the dog on the porch then try to nose himself into the same yard I think they should have taken the extra 10 min to ask a neighbor or even one of the witnesses watching them, even if they had to knock on a door or two. It is not like the dog went after them foaming at the mouth lunging at them. Think about it, you see the cops pull up you assume they will do the right thing next thing you know they pull out a gun and shoot the dog, at what point are you going to yell don't shoot?
The fact of the matter is there were witnesses. If the cops pulled up and seen the dog on the porch then try to nose himself into the same yard I think they should have taken the extra 10 min to ask a neighbor or even one of the witnesses watching them, even if they had to knock on a door or two. It is not like the dog went after them foaming at the mouth lunging at them. Think about it, you see the cops pull up you assume they will do the right thing next thing you know they pull out a gun and shoot the dog, at what point are you going to yell don't shoot?
