LSX time???

jtcstrat said:
Betting 100 that is wasnt the tune really does no good here, neither you nor ur buddy ben have any clue about what ur doing or have even built anything to make your input worthy.

eric you can stay out of it as well, we both dont like eachother, same reason u told me ur tuning ur car urself because u dont trust "lidio and his shitty tunes" your story was a lot diff last year before our falling out. Only reason you are in this thread is because of our issues. grow the fuck up n move on with yourself.
Click to expand...

Ben made a statement. Nothing wrong with that statement, he's giving his input to what he thinks is the problem. I don't "have any clue about what I'm doing or have even built anything to make my input worthy" but I'm not on my fourth motor and who is? At this point, I'd expect you to be reaching out for those more knowledgeable instead of acting all high and mighty while dumping money into yet another bad engine. Don't forget, YOU haven't built anything of worth, you had those around you do it for you.

I don't need to stay out of anything, this is a public forum and I'm allowed to express my opinion. At no point have I ever disagreed with Lidio's tuning. My Vortech setup made 502whp on a stock motor, tuned by Lidio, and was flawless until I tore it down to build the motor. Lidio is conservative, one of the results behind my decision to tune my car myself.

Have I stated anything about "our issues"? I could throw you under the bus but that's not what this is about... I came into this thread as I would have come into any other blown motor thread.
 
jtcstrat said:
From a fellow car enthusiast and the first words out of your moth are this is my karma over a situation u half made up, i get texts from people this morning asking me wtf is your problem, so again ur reason in this thread is only over our beef.
Click to expand...

Situation half made up? That's hilarious. And again, my reason in this thread is just as any other broken motor thread, no different.
 
rockthemullet said:
Ben made a statement. Nothing wrong with that statement, he's giving his input to what he thinks is the problem. I don't "have any clue about what I'm doing or have even built anything to make my input worthy" but I'm not on my fourth motor and who is? At this point, I'd expect you to be reaching out for those more knowledgeable instead of acting all high and mighty while dumping money into yet another bad engine. Don't forget, YOU haven't built anything of worth, you had those around you do it for you.

I don't need to stay out of anything, this is a public forum and I'm allowed to express my opinion. At no point have I ever disagreed with Lidio's tuning. My Vortech setup made 502whp on a stock motor, tuned by Lidio, and was flawless until I tore it down to build the motor. Lidio is conservative, one of the results behind my decision to tune my car myself.

Have I stated anything about "our issues"? I could throw you under the bus but that's not what this is about... I came into this thread as I would have come into any other blown motor thread.
Click to expand...

The last motor was the piston manufactures fault, the first motor was a shattered oil pump. and you know it. neither of those my fault. you are not on your fourth motor because you have yet to finish your first build, calling greg and i every other day wondering why when u install the crank it wont spin because you put the bolts in wrong. so dont act like you know everything also. you have never even finished one single build because u cant finish it and cut corners and nothing works. I am reaching out, showing plugs, but you are the last person who has any knowledge i would take. Ya i built this past motor along side of a very well known guy with much experience, so yes i did build this motor with help, just like most people do. also used the best parts possible for the car and a very experienced machinist.
 
2011-10-18_20-12-06_106.jpg


this doesnt happen from an overly rich tune
 
rockthemullet said:
Ben made a statement. Nothing wrong with that statement, he's giving his input to what he thinks is the problem. I don't "have any clue about what I'm doing or have even built anything to make my input worthy" but I'm not on my fourth motor and who is? At this point, I'd expect you to be reaching out for those more knowledgeable instead of acting all high and mighty while dumping money into yet another bad engine. Don't forget, YOU haven't built anything of worth, you had those around you do it for you.

I don't need to stay out of anything, this is a public forum and I'm allowed to express my opinion. At no point have I ever disagreed with Lidio's tuning. My Vortech setup made 502whp on a stock motor, tuned by Lidio, and was flawless until I tore it down to build the motor. Lidio is conservative, one of the results behind my decision to tune my car myself.

Have I stated anything about "our issues"? I could throw you under the bus but that's not what this is about... I came into this thread as I would have come into any other blown motor thread.
Click to expand...

I have built the whole car with help on things that i am still learning about, so yes i have built plenty of 'worth' im sry that you have no one that wants to help you, and you decide to do it all onj your own then call is when shit doesnt work, crank wont spin, vacuum lines cant be figured out..ect, were in the same boat their chief.
 
jtcstrat said:
The last motor was the piston manufactures fault, the first motor was a shattered oil pump. and you know it. neither of those my fault. you are not on your fourth motor because you have yet to finish your first build, calling greg and i every other day wondering why when u install the crank it wont spin because you put the bolts in wrong. so dont act like you know everything also. you have never even finished one single build because u cant finish it and cut corners and nothing works. I am reaching out, showing plugs, but you are the last person who has any knowledge i would take. Ya i built this past motor along side of a very well known guy with much experience, so yes i did build this motor with help, just like most people do. also used the best parts possible for the car and a very experienced machinist.
Click to expand...

Do I care why you're on your fourth motor? Not really, just interesting that you're on your fourth motor. I call you and Greg every other day? That's interesting, I called YOU only ONCE asking about vacuum line routing and you referred me to Greg because you don't know wtf you're talking about with your own car. Greg has gotten a few questions from me, yes, but this has been my first modular build so there will be questions... You're clueless on the hangups I've had on my build so don't act like YOU know everything. I cut corners but I'm the one still at it, taking my time, right? I can't finish a single build, lol. Do you know how many boosted cars I've owned? How many have you? YOU didn't build a motor (or a setup for that matter), you leached off of those around you to get it done. Best parts possible, sure, best machinist, sure, but at no point did you know what you were doing alone with a build like this, lol.

Pure84GTT said:
since when are lidios tunes shitty lol thats the craziest shit ive ever heard
Click to expand...

I know, right?

jtcstrat said:
And its also hilarious you claim you never said that eric, you are something else.
Click to expand...

Claim I never said what? About Lidio? I've called him twice to schedule tuning for the turbo setup and ask for a few of his preferences while building so he would be comfortable with the car. Would I do that if I thought his work was garbage? I don't have to tune my car, I WANT to tune my car. I would trust Lidio with it any day of the week.

jtcstrat said:
I have built the whole car with help on things that i am still learning about, so yes i have built plenty of 'worth' im sry that you have no one that wants to help you, and you decide to do it all onj your own then call is when shit doesnt work, crank wont spin, vacuum lines cant be figured out..ect, were in the same boat their chief.
Click to expand...

Certainly not. You didn't build the car, you just have good friends. Also, please don't state you're similar to me in any way, makes me look bad.
 
Let me remind everyone reading that my first thread was simply defending Ben and at no point did I bring anything personal into the discussion. Mr. Pissy Pants over here jumped down my throat because I expressed my opinion.
 
rockthemullet said:
I'm predicting lean condition, would've helped if he was datalogging during the run... Then again, it's pretty unreliable to form an opinion about a total loss of compression just from the plugs.
Click to expand...
I've seen enough plugs to know if you burn off straps your fucking something up HUGE.....
 
got_h8rs? said:
Thought this was a thread to get informative information and opionions about what o.p should do? :headscrat
Click to expand...

Yea, looks like it went south in the middle of page 53 :shrug:

ReiKo said:
I've seen enough plugs to know if you burn off straps your fucking something up HUGE.....
Click to expand...

Oh yea, for sure, and burning straps off is certainly not a product of an over rich condition, as it was suggested. I'd run through the tune looking for oddball values and get the pumps flowed if it were me.
 
When it 'broke' how long did you stay in it? The plugs could mean next to nothing because of situational issues.
I know you broke the motor in.. But for how long?

Many questions.. And lol at Eric coming in to defend my brother and then suddenly in another post try to state something that has 'something' to do with the issue. Gj buddy.
 
Those plugs are a sign of pre-ignition. not a lean condition.

The motor had plenty of miles on it. i broke n the motor shut off i i started to go for the wall, so it was instant. if it did boost spike then why wasnt it tuned for it?
 
rockthemullet said:
Yea, looks like it went south in the middle of page 53 :shrug:



Oh yea, for sure, and burning straps off is certainly not a product of an over rich condition, as it was suggested. I'd run through the tune looking for oddball values and get the pumps flowed if it were me.
Click to expand...

I would bet this has something to do with the pumps... Didnt you also have injector problems Jon? Maybe they got messed up again, but you did say you changed the fuel lines.
 
Last edited:
jtcstrat said:
Those plugs are a sign of pre-ignition. not a lean condition.

The motor had plenty of miles on it. i broke n the motor shut off i i started to go for the wall, so it was instant. if it did boost spike then why wasnt it tuned for it?
Click to expand...

You knew the car was only tuned for 18-20 psi before it even left lids shop. You were also talking back and forth with Greg as it was tuned. If you werent happy with the 10.8 AF and 17* of timing why did you take it from lidios hands? And if you really werent confident in the tune why did you take it to the track?
 
Rickety said:
I don't think so dude......I think U have the same issue as U had, this time the weaker link was found......
Click to expand...

I don't know anything about your first issue, but without knowing anything about it, I would find it hard to believe a faulty piston design was the cause of a broken motor with this type of a fairly mild build. Especially if you didn't change anything except to repair the engine.

jtcstrat said:
Those plugs are a sign of pre-ignition. not a lean condition.
Click to expand...

I agree that it looks like pre-ignition and not necessarily a lean condition. I've been to this party before :)

What fuel do you run in this car?
 
rockthemullet said:
Do I care why you're on your fourth motor? Not really, just interesting that you're on your fourth motor. I call you and Greg every other day? That's interesting, I called YOU only ONCE asking about vacuum line routing and you referred me to Greg because you don't know wtf you're talking about with your own car. Greg has gotten a few questions from me, yes, but this has been my first modular build so there will be questions... You're clueless on the hangups I've had on my build so don't act like YOU know everything. I cut corners but I'm the one still at it, taking my time, right? I can't finish a single build, lol. Do you know how many boosted cars I've owned? How many have you? YOU didn't build a motor (or a setup for that matter), you leached off of those around you to get it done. Best parts possible, sure, best machinist, sure, but at no point did you know what you were doing alone with a build like this, lol.



I know, right?



Claim I never said what? About Lidio? I've called him twice to schedule tuning for the turbo setup and ask for a few of his preferences while building so he would be comfortable with the car. Would I do that if I thought his work was garbage? I don't have to tune my car, I WANT to tune my car. I would trust Lidio with it any day of the week.



Certainly not. You didn't build the car, you just have good friends. Also, please don't state you're similar to me in any way, makes me look bad.
Click to expand...


Forget it eric, waking up to hear from others ur childish fb status as a stab at me is what got me going, you are lying through your teeth, i dont know the hangups on your car because i didnt really give a shit about them. and i know u cut corners so im not gonna get involved when i have gave my opinion n u choose the other way. ur still at it because of other personal issues we can leave aside, im still at it also arent i? and yes ive turned every nut and bolt on this car, you are outta ur mind. some things i asked for help on but most i have learned from good friends and done myself with or with out help, and i never stated i know it all either. this is why i was looking for advice cuz im at a loss. You are rite, i wouldnt want nething to do with you, there isd a reason why none of us talk to you nemore.
 
Fryguy302 said:
I don't know anything about your first issue, but without knowing anything about it, I would find it hard to believe a faulty piston design was the cause of a broken motor with this type of a fairly mild build. Especially if you didn't change anything except to repair the engine.



I agree that it looks like pre-ignition and not necessarily a lean condition. I've been to this party before :)

What fuel do you run in this car?
Click to expand...

turbo blue 110, the first pistons were from a company and even my engine builder trusted them, they cut valve reliefs way to deep and said it would be just fine, read back and u can see about the last set of slugs. i have a lot of well experienced people look at the last set of slugs and agree it was just not enough for this build. thats why i went with diamond this time.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top