Covid.. your opinion....

Golden said:
That's funny, though. Far more people that I know that are Trump supporters are vaccinated than the never Trumpers. As Geoff mentioned, they remember the Democrat hype about not getting the vaccine due to Trump saying to get it.

Go drive around Ann Arbor for a bit. See how many college students (almost always liberal) are mask-less or having large gatherings.
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are you saying trump supporters are uneducated? Lmao
 
DetroitStyle said:
And do you think the population density of Finland, Norway, Iceland, etc are different than that of Sweden? or similar?
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I think the only fact that counts in Sweden is the number of meatballs consumed per capita divided by the number of fjords. You should probably ask the three million people that you think live in the UP of Michigan though.

-Geoff
 
mikesfastss said:
I see someone forgot or didn’t see the bob woodward interview when trump said he was down playing it, imagine how different things could be if he addressed it then? Or didn’t dissolve the pandemic team Obama had in place? Addressing the issue a month sooner could have been huge. Oh and p.s FUCK Trump
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I will never understand people that complain that a President DIDNT tell people to panic.
As far as Trump dissolving the pandemic team, they didn't get rid of the team. They restructured it and integrated it into the NSC. Even USA Today reported that it was a half truth.
 
Roadrage said:
I will never understand people that complain that a President DIDNT tell people to panic.
As far as Trump dissolving the pandemic team, they didn't get rid of the team. They restructured it and integrated it into the NSC. Even USA Today reported that it was a half truth.
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So if your girlfriend might have aids and don’t tell you before sex it’s ok? Wouldn’t you like to know so you can decide for yourself if you want to go down that road? Exactly.
 
Roadrage said:
You know the saying: If you are young and Republican you have no heart. If you are old and a Democrat, you have no brain.
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It wasn’t me who said Republicans are uneducated lol, I’m pretty sure chump himself said he like his supporters that way( congratulations)
 
I guess we can all just chug some bleach or stick a uv light up our ass and hope for the best. Lmfao do what your daddy says
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

What’s everyone’s thoughts on this science?




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Conclusion
The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.
 
Another thing that frustrated me about the restrictions. Luckily our chain stores don't monitor people anymore and self check out pays unlimited cash back. However back before Christmas talk to someone at the recycling center up here. They service 3 or 4 counties up here in northern Michigan and they said they have crushed and recycled over a million dollars of returnable cans. Where does this surplus of money go? How many people in the larger populated areas and just dumping their cans because it is too much of a PITA to return them right now. I know the bottle returns up here have a 1 person at a time limit. It doesn't get followed, but I can't imagine the bottle return issues in wayne county.


This article is from May 2020 and no updated articles have been posted since. So almost a year ago $50,000,000 in can deposits were not redeemed.

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/coron...old-50-million-unredeemed-bottle-can-deposits

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mikesfastss said:
So if your girlfriend might have aids and don’t tell you before sex it’s ok? Wouldn’t you like to know so you can decide for yourself if you want to go down that road? Exactly.
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Trump didn't give me covid, so that's a pretty lousy attempt at equivalence. If Trump said AIDs would disappear, then I would probably refer to a doctor for actual medical advice.
mikesfastss said:
It wasn’t me who said Republicans are uneducated lol, I’m pretty sure chump himself said he like his supporters that way( congratulations)
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"We won the evangelicals. We won with young. We won with old. We won with highly educated. We won with poorly educated,” before exclaiming “I love the poorly educated!". Democrats win almost every major city, the same places with the highest rates of illiteracy and high school dropouts. Let's not pretend Democrats don't absolutely love that demographic.

mikesfastss said:
I guess we can all just chug some bleach or stick a uv light up our ass and hope for the best. Lmfao do what your daddy says
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I'm not sure why so many people keep acting like Trump told anyone to do either of those things. He was taking to a doctor and asked if those things were possibilities (never said bleach at all). Do Democrats really not understand the difference between statements and questions?
 
Roadrage said:
I'm not sure why so many people keep acting like Trump told anyone to do either of those things. He was taking to a doctor and asked if those things were possibilities (never said bleach at all). Do Democrats really not understand the difference between statements and questions?
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They don't read past the headline, or they say whatever the CNN guy said. The collective stupidity of the anti-Trump crew is not even worth trying to argue, it is like clapping with one hand.

-Geoff
 
Golden said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

What’s everyone’s thoughts on this science?




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Conclusion
The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.
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https://www.politifact.com/factchec...l-hypotheses-journal-article-lacks-evidence-/

My thoughts are that this exactly the problem. It’s not “from Stanford”... it’s an unvetted hypothesis paper that has been widely debunked. But still gets spread around because a lot of right wingers are desperate to find anything that contradicts anything Democrats say.


I’ll ask you this. Say your mom/dad goes in for open heart surgery. You see the surgeon and nurses walking in to operate. They aren’t wearing any masks. You OK with that?

Yes or no.


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Honestly, the fact that there are people who think masks are completely ineffective against the spread of viruses is so asinine it’s mind boggling. It’s physics on the most basic basic level. It’s a physical barrier that either stops, slows or reduces the amount of virus carrying particles one person potentially transmits to another. [emoji2359][emoji2359][emoji2359][emoji2359]


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Roadrage said:
I will never understand people that complain that a President DIDNT tell people to panic.
As far as Trump dissolving the pandemic team, they didn't get rid of the team. They restructured it and integrated it into the NSC. Even USA Today reported that it was a half truth.
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If you lived on the coast and the government got word that there was a massive earthquake under the ocean... would want the President to go on TV and say it’s OK, everything’s going to be fine... and then be OK with thousands being killed by the tsunami that science said was coming? Would “well, I didn’t want people to panic” be an acceptable reason why he didn’t strongly suggest if not insist the public to take necessary precautions?


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DetroitStyle said:
Honestly, the fact that there are people who think masks are completely ineffective against the spread of viruses is so asinine it’s mind boggling. It’s physics on the most basic basic level. It’s a physical barrier that either stops, slows or reduces the amount of virus carrying particles one person potentially transmits to another. [emoji2359][emoji2359][emoji2359][emoji2359]


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Masks aren't filters that are fine enough to catch the virus, so this statement is 100% bullshit. You should really ask the three million people that your population density math says live in the UP, though, they will set you straight!

-Geoff
 
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