Camaro outsells Mustang
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cjmatt
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Consumers have taken note and are trying to keep the odd man out from a BK as well. How have your March sales been so far compared to last year? I heard grumblings that we may come out huuuge
oh and GM, last I heard 142,006 vehicles in a month is still more than 141,535
WhiteHawk
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An important stat no doubt, but off topic. Stats that are relevant to this thread:
- Camaro beats Mustang in yearly sales with 8 months production.
- Camaro plant adds a shift, Mustang plant drops a shift.
Maybe you should start a GM bashing thread, since that seems to be all you are doing in this one.
-Geoff
cjmatt
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You can thank the Mazda6 for the dropped shift. Mustang numbers are up and its hard to fault Ford for being able to build cars faster than GM. We can get the same amount done with less shifts...which means we make more money per hour, durrrrrrrrrr
controlled insanity
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i think just to screw with us, ford mustangs Chevy camaros dodge challengers and chargers should only be available with a 4 cylinder from all the recalled toyotas for the next 2 years.
Roadrage
Easily Irritated
Thats how it usually is with Camaros and Mustangs. The v-6 sales carry the entire line, but it seems like the new Camaros, almost everyone I see is a v-8.
cjmatt
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The fact that Ford outsold GM last month is a pertinant fact to the discussion, as it shows that by Camaro outselling the Mustang, Camaro is now becoming a more substantial portion of GM sales. It was axed the first time because it became an almost nonexistant portion not worth putting the money into.
Joe
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Correct. With the 2010 Camaro, more V8 cars have been sold than V6 cars so far, those numbers will more than likely revert once the 'new' factor wears off a little. Maybe after the Convertible comes out later this year, we'll see.
ConfusedGarage
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This is easy. Fords fleet mix was ~40% and incentives through the roof buying the share. Ford went the way of chrysler to buy those numbers, it comes back to haunt you in residual values later on, two fold when you do both in a month.
Really? That's funny I didn't see "through the roof incentives", but I guess I wouldn't know.
Let's face it, Ford is building a better product in three areas:
1. Safety
2. Quality
3. Fuel Economy
The public has noticed this and has responded by purchasing the product. Factor in the people upset about the bailout Chrysler and GM took, the Toyota recalls and the numbers work in Fords favor.
DBK
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That is total bullshit. Ford was definitely NOT buying the share. That's just a convenient excuse because GM is losing a game for volume Ford isn't even playing. Give me the numbers on total incentives for both Ford and GM last month.
Joe
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Do you really believe Ford is so much better better than GM in those three areas or is that the salesman talking?
The domestics are light years ahead in all three areas then they have ever been, not just Ford...
The GM/Chrysler bailout BK have kept some from buying there no doubt, but in the three areas you focused on above, they are all very very close and they used their partnerships with the import automakers to help them get there.
ConfusedGarage
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ConfusedGarage
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I didn't say better product that GM, I said better product!!! That coupled with the problems in the industry Ford is kicking ass. Call it luck, call it intuition the fact remains Ford is making gains while everyone else is falling. You can't deny those facts!
No, Ford is doin well, no doubt. They had the foresight to borrow money before the crash, and that was smart. Now they are reaping the gains from Toyotas loss, not as much as Honda, but the most of any D3. A % of consumers are pissed at GM and Chrysler for the gov. loans. Not much can be done about it, and I can see there pt.
GM looks like they did worse last month, but phasin out/winding down the noncore brands hurt. Going forward, GM and Ford should be close in Total and Retail sales now that GM doesnt have a gazillion brands.
