American Axle strike....

2k3sgm

2k3sgm

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Anyone have a list of which plants have been affected by the strike? Either slowed production or completely halted. I ordered an Avalanche and I just know I'm gonna get hosed! :icon_frow
 
Flint Truck and Bus as well as Pontiac Truck and Bus. I'm sure that there are more across the nation affected, as well as some Chrysler plants as well. As of today, the Hamtramck plant (Buick Lucerne, Buick LaCrosse, and Cadillac DTS) and Janesville, WI (Tahoe, Yukon Denali) are closing. My plant (G6, Chevy Malibu) and Fairfax, KS (Saturn Aura, Chevy Malibu, Grand Prix) may close in a few weeks. GM and Chrysler arent too worried right now because all products affected are selling slow and have big inventories. However, if my plant and Fairfax are forced to close down, GM will step in and end the strike because we are the biggest selling plants right now and they cannot afford to have us down.
 
I think they build those in Silao, so you should be allright. Mexico has it's own suplpy of axles. I would imagine that AA plant down there is looking at expansion plans right now too.

-Geoff
 
yeah, gm does what gm wants, am axle is not the only company that can be tooled to make those parts... 30 dollars an hour for button pushers finally cought up with the company...
 
Hey, how about you Union bashers stay out of this thread? It's not welcome and your bullshittery is off topic.
 
CRASH said:
However, if my plant and Fairfax are forced to close down, GM will step in and end the strike because we are the biggest selling plants right now and they cannot afford to have us down.
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End the strike? Watch how fast they pull the tools and let someone else get paid to make the parts. There is an entire group in purchasing and all they do is pull tools all day long. GM owns every single tool that makes their parts. They could have Orion running in a week if they wanted to. Full axles is a little tougher. The only issue there is the logistics of shipping them from Mexico. AA is making truck axles RIGHT NOW in Mexico.

The thing the UAW doesn't get, is that they may never go back to work at AA. I don't think this has ever even crossed their minds, either. They need to wake up. GM is not going to bail them out, like some people think.

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
End the strike? Watch how fast they pull the tools and let someone else get paid to make the parts. There is an entire group in purchasing and all they do is pull tools all day long. GM owns every single tool that makes their parts. They could have Orion running in a week if they wanted to. Full axles is a little tougher. The only issue there is the logistics of shipping them from Mexico. AA is making truck axles RIGHT NOW in Mexico.

The thing the UAW doesn't get, is that they may never go back to work at AA. I don't think this has ever even crossed their minds, either. They need to wake up. GM is not going to bail them out, like some people think.

-Geoff
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They do not supply us with axles, as ours are made in Canada. They make a certain component, I'm not entirely sure what it is admittedly, for our Malibu. The Malibu and G6 right now are what GM has to hang its hat on. The sales of both of these cars are leading the company. Geoff, I am sorry but I find your scenario absolutely unrealistic.
 
CRASH said:
They do not supply us with axles, as ours are made in Canada. They make a certain component, I'm not entirely sure what it is admittedly, for our Malibu. The Malibu and G6 right now are what GM has to hang its hat on. The sales of both of these cars are leading the company. Geoff, I am sorry but I find your scenario absolutely unrealistic.
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So a part that you don't know is made by American Axle, it's the most important vehicle at GM, and you still don't think they'll just pull the tools and make it somewhere else? You need to lay off the UAW Kool-Aid.

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
So a part that you don't know is made by American Axle, it's the most important vehicle at GM, and you still don't think they'll just pull the tools and make it somewhere else? You need to lay off the UAW Kool-Aid.

-Geoff
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It's not the UAW Kool-Aid, it's called realism. I guarantee that GM would not just 'pull the tools' and make it somewhere else, we are not talking about Playskool toys here. We are talking about ripping out machinery and transplanting it somewhere else, in which the cost and waste of time would be just too damned excessive. That is what is unrealistic about your point.

GM would not end the strike per say, but they would certainly influence the discussions and move shit along. They can do that because they have that power.
 
Got a feeling it's going to get bloody at AAM.

And for you union bashers,you better wise up cause if you think the union is gonna get fucked, wtf do you think is gonna happen to non union jobs and shops that are still around. That's right you're gonna get fucked 2x as hard. For all you idiots that think what is happening to the union and losing UAW and CAW jobs because retards keep buying gook and jap made shit, and greedy ceo's keep outsourcing jobs over seas and to mexico so they can stuff more green into their pockets- I got news for you. Pull your heads out of your asses. For every UAW job lost, it effects 10 other jobs outside the auto industry. You think our economy is fucked now- it ain't even begun yet! You better hope AAM keeps those jobs here.

Put that in your bong and smoke it!

UAW Local 228 here and we support the AAM Strike! :cheers:
 
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TRIPLEWHITE03GT said:
Nope. I work afternoons. Gettin ready to go to :gr_zzz: in a few.
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Haha, I work third (1130pm-800am). Been off since yesterday morning. Go back to work sunday night. I've been up all day and night so I can get my body adjusted to the hours.
 
WhiteHawk said:
End the strike? Watch how fast they pull the tools and let someone else get paid to make the parts. There is an entire group in purchasing and all they do is pull tools all day long. GM owns every single tool that makes their parts. They could have Orion running in a week if they wanted to. Full axles is a little tougher. The only issue there is the logistics of shipping them from Mexico. AA is making truck axles RIGHT NOW in Mexico.

The thing the UAW doesn't get, is that they may never go back to work at AA. I don't think this has ever even crossed their minds, either. They need to wake up. GM is not going to bail them out, like some people think.

-Geoff
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It can be a little more complicated than that. Typically the customer only owns the portion of the tool that touches the part. So the assembly table can still be owned by the supplier. Even if the entire tables / fixtures are owned, there's still a lot of machines that aren't. The challenge there is a lot of the tools only work for those specific machines, if the other supplier doesn't have those machines available, then the tools are useless to them.
 
CRASH said:
Haha, I work third (1130pm-800am). Been off since yesterday morning. Go back to work sunday night. I've been up all day and night so I can get my body adjusted to the hours.
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That's 1st shift for us a.k.a. midnights ( afternoons is 3rd). But in my dept mids runs from 10:30p-7:00a. I miss midnights. 3rd shift sucks, especially having a 7yr old. Might be back on days here in a couple of weeks. 10 years in Sept, and I'm stuck on Afternoons :banghead:

Red Wing replay is over. Time for :gr_zzz:
 
CRASH said:
I am sorry but I find your scenario absolutely unrealistic.
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Sorry to be rude, but your absolutely wrong. The scenario he
described is reality and the emergency resourcing of business
happens daily at GM. I have been on the other end of it.
 
CRASH said:
It's not the UAW Kool-Aid, it's called realism. I guarantee that GM would not just 'pull the tools' and make it somewhere else, we are not talking about Playskool toys here. We are talking about ripping out machinery and transplanting it somewhere else, in which the cost and waste of time would be just too damned excessive. That is what is unrealistic about your point.

GM would not end the strike per say, but they would certainly influence the discussions and move shit along. They can do that because they have that power.
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im gonna guess he never seen the size of some of the machines
 
OEM Purchasing here, and yes, it is very easy to resource large items, especially if it is in the same company, you only need to move the tool and fixtures, not the entire press, etc. most likely AAM owns identical machines south of the border that these will just drop into. I can get a V8 cylinder block resourced in a week and a half if i wanted to, with machining.

Although I doubt what we are going to see here is AAM moving the business out of the country. Im willing to bet its going to be another detroit freepress scenario. They will break the union and bring in scabs at lower wages. I know detroit unemployment is high enough right now that they could find 3600 people who would be happy with 15/hr and some benefits
 
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