2011 College Football Megathread

[Stalker]

Bought my airfare to Dallas this morning. $156 round trip from Atlanta.

 

[hangemhigh]

And because the SEC is a bunch of dirty rotten mother fuckers.

They'll offer scholarships to 15 kids, when they only have 9 to pass out for example. They'll take scholarships away from kids who don't preform. They'll also give half scholarships to kids. They're pieces of shit, the worse kind of people.

Big 10 schools on the other hand, will use almost all of their scholarships and then usually give the last couple to walk ons. ( This is one of the reason Ohio State and Jim Tressle is such a piece of garbage, because the people who are going to pay the most are the kids and family's of walk ons that would have gotten a full ride.) Look at Michigan for example. During the Dick Wad era they offered scholarships to a few kickers, they were horrible, but they kept their scholarships. If it was Alabama they would have lost their scholarships.

Until this is leveled out, you're going to see SEC teams get better recruits. That's the main reason they get better recruits.

interesting read....

 

[4 cam tbird]

Final AP standings
http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings

1 Alabama (55) 12-1 1495
2 LSU (1) 13-1 1425
3 Oklahoma State (4) 12-1 1399
4 Oregon 12-2 1250
5 Arkansas 11-2 1198
6 USC 10-2 1181
7 Stanford 11-2 1167
8 Boise State 12-1 1127
9 South Carolina 11-2 1013
10 Wisconsin 11-3 905
11 Michigan State 11-3 873
12 Michigan 11-2 839
13 Baylor 10-3 780
14 TCU 11-2 653
15 Kansas State 10-3 621
16 Oklahoma 10-3 572
17 West Virginia 10-3 547
18 Houston 13-1 518
19 Georgia 10-4 439
20 Southern Miss 12-2 411
21 Virginia Tech 11-3 329
22 Clemson 10-4 188
23 Florida State 9-4 154
24 Nebraska 9-4 143
25 Cincinnati 10-3 103

 

[Stalker]

Only thing I see that stands out is Wisc should have been lower ranked.

 

[4 cam tbird]

I found it interesting how the Big 10 grouping landed together in the manner they finished in the Big Ten standings.

I don't know why Nebraska was still ranked, maybe there was just no one else remotely worthy of ranking? I guess, North Dakota State got AP votes so it must have just been that bad. Not sure how Oklahoma ends up on top of K State there.

 

[4 cam tbird]

Only thing I see that stands out is Wisc should have been lower ranked.

Why, they won the Big Ten, they got put at the top of a grouping of Big Ten teams. They played well in their bowl despite losing. I have no problem with where they are.

 

[Stalker]

I suppose. I just felt that they played at a lower level than MSU and UM. All 3 teams lost games they shouldn't have, but I guess that's the whole league this year.

 

[webleedorange619]

And because the SEC is a bunch of dirty rotten mother fuckers.

They'll offer scholarships to 15 kids, when they only have 9 to pass out for example. They'll take scholarships away from kids who don't preform. They'll also give half scholarships to kids. They're pieces of shit, the worse kind of people.

Big 10 schools on the other hand, will use almost all of their scholarships and then usually give the last couple to walk ons. ( This is one of the reason Ohio State and Jim Tressle is such a piece of garbage, because the people who are going to pay the most are the kids and family's of walk ons that would have gotten a full ride.) Look at Michigan for example. During the Dick Wad era they offered scholarships to a few kickers, they were horrible, but they kept their scholarships. If it was Alabama they would have lost their scholarships.

Until this is leveled out, you're going to see SEC teams get better recruits. That's the main reason they get better recruits.

Yep, Texas could do this oversigning bullshit and be just like the SEC, but they dont. Oversigning is such shit, it literally eliminates "bad" recruiting classes.

 

[4 cam tbird]

It kind of surprises me that it doesn't backfire and lose them recruits. Why would you go some place knowing you might lose your scholarship like that?

 

[moneypit]

It kind of surprises me that it doesn't backfire and lose them recruits. Why would you go some place knowing you might lose your scholarship like that?

any school can pull a scholarship its a deal kids can walk away from the school why can't the schools cut ties with kids who aren't living up to their end of the deal? They aren't contracts, ncaa football is a business programs are there to make money if a employee isn't living up to his or het endof the bargain they have to go

 

[Swifster]

any school can pull a scholarship its a deal kids can walk away from the school why can't the schools cut ties with kids who aren't living up to their end of the deal? They aren't contracts, ncaa football is a business programs are there to make money if a employee isn't living up to his or het endof the bargain they have to go

What it does is hoard talent. Every kid thinks he's going to play in the next level when they go to college. If a player busts his ass and isn't as good as the other 7 linebackers (because someone will be 7), has he not done what he was brought in to do? Yes, they are scholarships given out by semester, but this also isn't the NFL. These are students. Not pro players.

Those 30 'recruits' are then going thru tryouts during spring practice to make the team. If not given a bogus scholarship, that player could take one at another school in the Big 12, B1G, ACC, etc, by a team that would actually honor it's scholarships. This needs to be a level playing field, not just for the schools involved, but for the students as well.

Oh, and fuck Nick Saban...

 

[moneypit]

schools have done this for years the employees know this going in make the kids stay 4 years and the schools employ them for 4 is the omly way to level the field

 

[Swifster]

No...Just eliminate over signing. Ifyou don't have scholarships, you can't sign someone. No grayshirting.

 

[moneypit]

can we redshirt?

 

[Swifster]

Only if you are afraid of penalizing a three time drunk...

 

[moneypit]

sweet all is good then

 

[jsxtreme]

any school can pull a scholarship its a deal kids can walk away from the school why can't the schools cut ties with kids who aren't living up to their end of the deal? They aren't contracts, ncaa football is a business programs are there to make money if a employee isn't living up to his or het endof the bargain they have to go

Yeah see but that's where you're wrong. They could do it, but do they? NO. Only SEC teams do that shit, because SEC teams don't give a fuck about things like academics or helping their kids get a good education. It's all about winning.

Fuck Alabama, fuck Nick Saban, and fuck the SEC.

 

[moneypit]

The 4 and 5 star players aren't there for an education

 

[Swifster]

The 4 and 5 star players aren't there for an education

Um, yeah. They are after year two, because half don't pan out.

 

[4 cam tbird]

I'm not going to research it, but I'm sure it wouldn't take long to find a good number of 4 or 5 star recruits that turned into academic all americans. Although i'm sure those aren't the ones playing in the SEC.