Well water/softener questions

JACKO

JACKO

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I kinda understand, you have the pump, and big thing that you put salt in, some have a filter, I've heard of a reverse osmosis system...question i have, is for what reason would someone have 2 water softeners hooked up, one was clearly copper piped in, the other one had a plastic "T" which i don't know where it was going to....
I also might need a certified well/septic person check this out...thanks


JACKO

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If this a is a house you're looking at possibly buying,
yes, have all the systems inspected & have the water tested.

I always have the water tested twice, once at the state & at
the county.
 
ShadowRuleZ said:
Are you sure it's two softeners and not just a dual tank softener?
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I honestly don't know...i should have took a picture, but didn't think about, till i was gone.
I want to have the water tested, how do i go about getting this done?

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JACKO said:
I honestly don't know...i should have took a picture, but didn't think about, till i was gone.
I want to have the water tested, how do i go about getting this done?

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Normally I go to the agency I want to use (State of Michigan, county, etc) and purchase
the empty test bottles. You then follow the directions on how to carefully fill & return the
water samples (you can mail them in).

Like I said, I run two sets of tests, and don't be cheap, get a full battery of tests done.
You'll also want check "water flow" to make sure you have proper pressure & flow.

All of these things are very easy & simple to do (hey, i did them :lol:). There is really
no reason you can't do this yourself - its something you'll want to be able to do, so learn
now.

And yes, you should have taken TONS of photos. Always take a camera when looking at
a house for sale & take photos of all the mechanicals. I normally take 100+ photos of a
property.
 
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So I've had my own questions about water softeners.

So you have the main pump and the pressure tank. There is a pressure sensor you set, so once the pressure tank gets drained the pump is triggered.

From there you go through your filters. I recently upgraded from a single filter to a triple filter set up. I have a 1 micron filter, then a .1 micron then a charcoal. I think I might just go with a .1 and 2 charcoals to see if it helps the get the sulfur smell out that I get once in a while.

From the filters, it goes to the actual softener. This is where the salt water gets added. I know it only cycles on a schedule, like 3 or 4 times a day. I'm guessing this is what adds the salt water to the system. After that the water goes to the house.

Questions:
Would adding a filter after the softener help at all? Maybe a charcoal after to help?

My softener is leaking a little, I'd like to replace it myself. What is the advantage of a two tank system?

I've seen systems with a storage tank, when and why would you need one?

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I'm looking at buying something like this to replace my old one.
http://www.amazon.com/602abcWATER-M...02&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=water+softener&psc=1
 
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Dude give me a call, I had to become very knowledgeable about softeners

One is probably to filter out iron, (iron filter) the other is the the softener.
At my Wixom house I needed both, I hard water, and high iron.
A reverse osmosis system is mainly for drinking water or ice cubes.

Find out the PPM Parts Per Million of Iron in the water and hardness level of the water.
You can have softened water but it if smells like rotten eggs your going to need a decent iron filter.

I've got a great well company and a very good septic Engineer.
In the 5 years I've become very informed.
 
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sounds like a carbon filter or a greensand system. If it has another tank with a purple liquid(potassium permangate) its greensand
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ultradriver10000 said:
EDIT:
I'm looking at buying something like this to replace my old one.
http://www.amazon.com/602abcWATER-M...02&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=water+softener&psc=1
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Can't answer much about your other questions, but I bought our softener online from https://www.ohiopurewater.com/ and the guy I talked with (CK) that put together the recommendation was very helpful. I know they sell filters and reverse osmosis, he might be able to give you a few options.

Biggest advantage to the two tank that I saw was that you could have softened water during the regen cycle. Didn't seem worth it to me, I went with a single tank.
 
Ultra Those filters should be after the softener not before. You want a 50 micron filter before to take out any large particles. The soft water then put through whatever to clean it up for drinking/ taste. The problem you have to be having is clogged up filters and very little flow. You do not want any filter in your system that flows less then 5 gpm.
 
jspec said:
Ultra Those filters should be after the softener not before. You want a 50 micron filter before to take out any large particles. The soft water then put through whatever to clean it up for drinking/ taste. The problem you have to be having is clogged up filters and very little flow. You do not want any filter in your system that flows less then 5 gpm.
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I was kind thinking about that. I think I buy the new softener and re-set up my system. A guy at work I was talking to says he has a very large charcoal filter system.
 
charcoal or activated carbon is a great filter. The larger the better. You recharge them with bleach. It removes most shit you do not want in the water. smells bad tastes. The worst problem you will ever have with well water is iron or Magense (black iron). If its bad enough you need an iron filter. Just be careful with to small micron filters as they do not flow real well. It is always the issue unless you have a huge ass well with a big pump.
 
Ok, so, the second tank is a iron out system. Inspector said everything is working fine. BUT their is a birch tree in my septic field, and some bushes also, he recommends not to remove it, but to cut it down to ground level....again, i know nothing of this. My assumption is this tree has been on this field since the building of the house in 1994.
Any thoughts?


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JACKO said:
Ok, so, the second tank is a iron out system. Inspector said everything is working fine. BUT their is a birch tree in my septic field, and some bushes also, he recommends not to remove it, but to cut it down to ground level....again, i know nothing of this. My assumption is this tree has been on this field since the building of the house in 1994.
Any thoughts?

JACKO

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If you decide to cut the trees down, you need to kill the roots.
A good & simple way to do this is to;

Cut tree down. Within 5 minutes of cutting the tree down saturate the cut stump
with a solution of 50% water and 50% of “Round-Up” (Glyphosate Isopropylamine salt 41%).

This with be systemic to the root system & kill it.
 
4Gas$ said:
If you decide to cut the trees down, you need to kill the roots.
A good & simple way to do this is to;

Cut tree down. Within 5 minutes of cutting the tree down saturate the cut stump
with a solution of 50% water and 50% of “Round-Up” (Glyphosate Isopropylamine salt 41%).

This with be systemic to the root system & kill it.
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That's the thing, i mean this tree had been there for 22 years, and no problems, that i know of. Also according to the building plans, from '94, their is already a reserve field in the yard.
What this actually means...lol...not sure

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Depending on how far the roots are down the field, it shouldn't be a problem. How far in the field is it? First,second, or last 3rd of the field? Basically think of the field as a "grating" system. Solids are kept in the tank, as the bacteria in your poop a loops break down the liquids/solids/etc. those items flow out of the "drain" section of the tank and down into the drain field that is full of tons of small gravel..
 
CMYZ28 said:
Depending on how far the roots are down the field, it shouldn't be a problem. How far in the field is it? First,second, or last 3rd of the field? Basically think of the field as a "grating" system. Solids are kept in the tank, as the bacteria in your poop a loops break down the liquids/solids/etc. those items flow out of the "drain" section of the tank and down into the drain field that is full of tons of small gravel..
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That i would have to measure to be exact, its kinda past the middle, but not at the end...lol...

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