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[Wizeguy]

He clearly followed him to the hospital. If I blew a red light in a non emergency situation, do you really think i'm going to drive to a hospital? WTF. Seriously. You guys are unbelievable for defending this cop's actions.

Meaning of Follow: To go or come after; to move behind in the same path or direction; hence, to go with (a leader, guide, etc.); to accompany; to attend.

Meaning of Chase verb 1. to pursue in order to seize, overtake, etc.: The police officer chased the thief.
2. to pursue with intent to capture or kill, as game; hunt: to chase deer

He was chasing him into the hospital..Police don't "follow" you with lights and siren blaring.
When the chase came to an end, people started exiting the vehical...Thats the last thing you wanna do when getting pulled over whether your at a hospital or a crack house.

 

[jdustu]

If you ask me, it sounds like the chief opening his mouth like this will without a doubt cost the city of Dallas a lot of money. This is a DREAM case for an attorney. The police Chief has already sided with his client publicly and has already dismissed his clients ticket. What a fuckin moran. He should've kept his mouth shut and let a judge dismiss the ticket. This has lawsuit written all over it.

Which is why it makes it so much more probable that he isn't just saying this to say it, he believes every word of it. A statement needed to be issued, the public was outraged and the station was getting tons of angry e-mails and phone calls. But he could have very easily issued a statement that wasn't as pointed as his was and was much more ambiguous.

 

[TTA]

Well, let's see. Because his wife, her aunt, and his father-in-law are in the vehicle with him(that's his father in law in the video, he stayed behind because he feared for Ryan's safety). Because the guy actually acknowledged the cops lights by flicking on his hazards. Because he pulled in to a dead end hospital parking lot and parked. Because the cop never once tried to hear his story, and instead just kept speaking to him like he was nothing. I'll repeat myself for the 100th time: I've got no issue with the cop pulling his gun and being very cautious when they get out. But it quickly became VERY apparent that they weren't running a scam, and it would have been very simple for him to escort them into the hospital to see for himself.

And here's the first direct quote I've heard from them regarding race:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...land/stories/032809dnmetragland.78c7ee6e.html

Until he ID's them he don't know them from Adam.
I'm, glad you found that other quote, after reading the other aticle I really thought they might be playig the race card.

 

[jdustu]

He was chasing him into the hospital..Police don't "follow" you with lights and siren blaring.
When the chase came to an end, people started exiting the vehical...Thats the last thing you wanna do when getting pulled over whether your at a hospital or a crack house.

Did you watch the video yet? I'm paraphrasing, but the the cop is heard saying "there was no chase, we don't chase" and "I followed him here"

Here's another take:

Moats turned on his hazard lights. He stopped at a red light, where, he said, the only nearby motorist signaled for him to go ahead. He went through. Powell, watching traffic from a hidden spot, flipped on his lights and sirens. In less than a minute, he caught up to the Moats and followed for about 20 more seconds as Moats found a parking spot outside the emergency room.

 

[jdustu]

Until he ID's them he don't know them from Adam.
I'm, glad you found that other quote, after reading the other aticle I really thought they might be playig the race card.

Which is covered in my last line. All he had to do was go with them to the front desk of the hospital.

 

[00Z28SS]

He was chasing him into the hospital..Police don't "follow" you with lights and siren blaring.
When the chase came to an end, people started exiting the vehical...Thats the last thing you wanna do when getting pulled over whether your at a hospital or a crack house.

Amen!

 

[00Z28SS]

Did you watch the video yet? I'm paraphrasing, but the the cop is heard saying "there was no chase, we don't chase" and "I followed him here"

Here's another take:

My bad, he's right. The police don't chase, the "pursue". The word chase fucks over a lot of police departments in civil litigations so police call them pursuits. Soprano maybe you can get us the definition of "pursuit"

 

[jdustu]

My bad, he's right. The police don't chase, the "pursue". The word chase fucks over a lot of police departments in civil litigations so police call them pursuits. Soprano maybe you can get us the definition of "pursuit"

My only point is that Soprano is splitting hairs, much the same way cops are forced to these days. Followed, chased, pursued, the outcome was the same: he was behind them when they arrived at the hospital parking lot.

But it should be clear from the video that this wasn't a "high speed pursuit" :lol:

 

[TTA]

Which is covered in my last line. All he had to do was go with them to the front desk of the hospital.

What was he supposed to do escort 5 people into the hospital at gunpoint?
Obviously I'm not a cop but the heart of the story as I see it is:
1:car blows light.
2:cop pulls car over.
3eople act in a way to put the cop on the offensive.
3a:Cop gets mad. <---never a good thing
3beople get mad. (see 3a)
4eople turn out to have excuse.
5:cop still mad. <---still not a good thing.
6 thru 10:cop in trouble.
11: people argue about it all night on the Internet

 

[Wizeguy]

What was he supposed to do escort 5 people into the hospital at gunpoint?
Obviously I'm not a cop but the heart of the story as I see it is:
1:car blows light.
2:cop pulls car over.
3eople act in a way to put the cop on the offensive.
3a:Cop gets mad. <---never a good thing
3beople get mad. (see 3a)
4eople turn out to have excuse.
5:cop still mad. <---still not a good thing.
6 thru 10:cop in trouble.
11: people argue about it all night on the Internet

:lol:
Beating a dead fucken horse for days!...Lock this bitch up!

 

[Shadow X]

 

[2004boss]

idk. If it was my mom they would have to shoot me. If my mom was about to die, I don't care if I knew it was gonna happen for years, nothing short of paralysis or death would stop me from getting there. I wouldn't care about the lives I endangered on the way there. In that type of situation i wouldn't be thinking clearly at all.

 

[jsxtreme]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

Police Officer Apologizes To Texans’ Moats
Posted by Aaron Wilson on March 27, 2009, 7:45 p.m.

Dallas police officer Robert Powell, who drew his gun and delayed Houston Texans running back Ryan Moats while he was frantically trying to get to the hospital room of his dying mother-in-law, has apologized for acknowledged misconduct that was captured on video.

Per the Associated Press, Powell released this statement through his lawyer:

“I wish to publicly and sincerely apologize to the Moats family, my colleagues in the Dallas Police Department and to all those who have been rightfully angered by my actions. After stopping Mr. Moats’ vehicle, I showed poor judgment and insensitivity to Mr. Moats and his family by my words and actions.”

There was no immediate reaction from Moats or his agent.

During the incident, Powell said to Moats, “I can screw you over.”

When a fellow police officer informed Powell that the mother-in-law was, in fact, dying, Powell replied, “All right. I’m almost done.”

Powell has been reprimanded publicly and privately by his superiors, who have expressed embarrassment and disappointment at the officer’s actions.

Powell is on administrative leave pending an internal review.

 

[jdustu]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/

That's good. Better than this:

"My understanding is that Officer Powell — even after he saw the videotape — believed he had not acted inappropriately," Chief Kunkle said, a view that was underscored by Assistant Chief Floyd Simpson, who reviewed the tape with Officer Powell on Wednesday.
"His belief was simply that he was doing his job," Chief Simpson said. "It did concern me that it just seemed that the compassion was not there."

 

[jdustu]

What was he supposed to do escort 5 people into the hospital at gunpoint?
Obviously I'm not a cop but the heart of the story as I see it is:
1:car blows light.
2:cop pulls car over.
3eople act in a way to put the cop on the offensive.
3a:Cop gets mad. <---never a good thing
3beople get mad. (see 3a)
4eople turn out to have excuse.
5:cop still mad. <---still not a good thing.
6 thru 10:cop in trouble.
11: people argue about it all night on the Internet

You've got a family getting out of the fucking SUV, not fucking NWA.:lol:

Listen, I've backed up every part of my argument with quotes from the Dallas force, the video, the family, and various accounts of the actual incident. Everyone else is coming with conjecture. If people(not so much you) still want to think that Moats acted in an irrational manner, and that the cop was fully justified being a prick throughout the ordeal, so be it.

 

[00Z28SS]

I don't think anyone on here, we me at least, think the cop could've handled himself better. However, the guy still broke the law. I know police need to show compassion, discretion yada yada, but they still have a job to do. I believe that BOTH parties could've handled themselves different.

 

[00Z28SS]

I wouldn't care about the lives I endangered on the way there. In that type of situation i wouldn't be thinking clearly at all.

I would care if you endangered the lives of my family no matter what you're going through in your personal life.

 

[jdustu]

I don't think anyone on here, we me at least, think the cop could've handled himself better. However, the guy still broke the law. I know police need to show compassion, discretion yada yada, but they still have a job to do.I believe that BOTH parties could've handled themselves different.

And therein lies my point. I completely disagree, and so does the Dallas Police Chief.

 

[00Z28SS]

And therein lies my point. I completely disagree, and so does the Dallas Police Chief.

Lmao! I guess we'll have to agree to disagree bro.

 

[Fryguy302]

Or maybe you're ignorant for assuming the Chief of Police isn't trying to do damage control, is being political to achieve his own goals, or isn't like any other "CEO" who is oblivious to everyday operations like most people in charge are at most larger departments/companies. You say good cops are in the minority, and I say you're wrong. In case you didn't know, failing to pull over when a cop has his lights/sirens on attempting to pull you over is a felony, even if your mommy is sick. While I agree its a terrible situation, you are letting your hatred toward cops blind you from the facts that the driver was wrong in his actions.

I do NOT hate cops! I hate BAD cops! I am thankful and appreciative of the police department. We NEED police. All I am saying is we absolutely MUST hold them accountable to the rules and they must be fair and professional in their jobs. I don't care if their job is hard, they know what they signed up for. If the money they make doesn't justify them being fair, they should pursue other careers.

I agree that my statement that good cops are the minority is not based on factual evidence and that I might have let my keyboard get away from me. That might not be true. But I do know for a fact that many, many unprofessional and unaccountable officers roam the country on a daily basis with guns and attitudes. That is a fact.