Thought a B-body build thread

Time-wise these pics are from the end of April.. slow but steady progress on the build.

When we pulled the body from the original frame, the left inner mount under the firewall spun in the housing, and the rearmost mount on the rear broke the bolt, then spun the cage nut. I pulled the inner fender out to get to the front mount, and can't final mount my line lock or run brake lines until it's back in. So, I needed to fix the mount attachments on the body before I could go much further.
Starting with the back. This is what I had. We tried to weld a nut to the busted bolt and get it out with an impact, but the cage nut started to spin in the housing.
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I guess I didn't take a pic before I pulled the cage nut out, so here's pic of it back in. I cut around the mount location on 3 sides, and bent the flap out until I could get the cage nut out. Here's a pic of it reinstalled, and the metal bent back roughly into position. This is looking at the mount from just under the license plate..rear bumper removed.
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Here's what the cage nut looks like... Oxy acetylene torch there for heating the nut up. It's basically a parallelogram of steel with a formed hole that's threaded. On a 77-79, these are threaded M12x1.75, on a 91-96, these are M10x1.5. I am not sure when the thread size changed... sometime between 1979 and 1991 :D..
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Get it Cherry red
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All gone.. run a tap through the threads to clean them up, they were in good shape.
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I don't have a pic of what I did to "refresh" the nut, but basically, the widest corners of the parallelogram need to be wider than the "cage" that they sit in to keep from rotating. These corners were deformed a bit, and I suspect the cage was deformed a bit too, allowing the nut to spin in the cage. This is likely due to the hammering with the impact I did trying to free up the bolt. I simply took the MIG welder, and built up these corners to a few mm bigger than that they originally were.. done.

I put the nut back into the cage, cleaned off the rust until I got to decent steel, and MID'd it all back up with a quick coat of paint..
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For the front, the nut is accessible from the inner wheel well, if you take the inner fender out.
Here's what I made up for the front. I have no idea what I did with the piece that came out. REgardless, it was easy to make up another one.
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This is where it goes. Pic is shot from over the left front knuckle, looking in.
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Finally, I took some time and went midevil on the inner fender with a 4" angle grinder, and a big ass wire wheel. Wire wheel is rated for 9000 RPM, the grinder 10,000. Wear pants and safety glasses (I wore a face shield), as the wires tend to exit their intended location, and embed themselves in things like little darts. I had about 15 of the wire bits stuck to my jeans. The jeans slow them down just enough to only sting, but seldom get stuck in your skin..

A nice coat of POR-15, and it's hanging to dry.
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Tonight, I'll install the starter before snugging the RH header down for the (hopefully) last time, and install the inner fender if it's dry enough. It should be, but it was still tacky as of 11PM last night, it was 45 overnight, and it's only getting to 60. Supposedly POR likes dampness to aid drying, so hopefully the damp weather of a rainy Monday will help.
 
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1 crossmember...

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1x3" mild steel tubing with some gussets. Leaves room to route the pipes from the headers to the X-pipe, just behind the trans mount.

And 1 Exhaust system

More progress. Exhaust is awaiting a few band clamps to be complete.

Pypes 3" 409SS X-pipe with added pieces of pipe fit to where the TBSS Pacesetter headers, Spintech Mufflers, SpinTech OTA pipes and Spintech tailpipe resonators. Pics on the driveway is before I welded every thing up. System will have 8 joints, all band clamps.
2- at the headers
2 at the back of the x-pipe
2 after the muffs
and 2 between the OTA pipes and tailpipes.

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End of June

After 10 frustrating days of messing with the car when I had time, I was finally able to work out the TCM issues. After troubleshooting all the possible electrical issues. Dropping the pan and changing out the PCS and pressure switch, testing all the connections twice, and talking to Powertrain Control Solutions twice, it all turned out to be a simple software issue. IF only the first guy I talked to at PCS was on the ball like the second guy, I would have saved 5 hours and $25 worth of fresh DexIII tranny fluid..

Lessons. 255's, a 4.10 gear and an SS3600 Yank make 1st gear very traction limited.

This is my first big stall converter. I need to pull the shift may WAY in to get it tamed for good street manners.

Things left to do.
-Recheck all the joints in the exhaust now that it's heat cycled a few times.
-Wire up the line lock.
-get a real wheel alignment done.
- clean up the paint as good as I can get it. Paint needs lots of polish, claybar and a couple coats of wax to make it decent.. not great, but decent.
- Hard mount TCM
- Wire in TCC brake switch
- wire in starter interrupt through shifter - already started it in gear once.
- make some sort of console for the shifter. It's a bare F-body floor shifter in there now.
- Get some sort of working speedo in there. I found a Caprice/Impala gauge cluster with individual round guage pods on the shelf. I'll have to see what it will take to mod it for an electronic speedo and tach as well as ther guages. If it all fits under the faux-wood faceplate.. bitchin.. stealth is good.

Obligatory pic:
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Shook the car down a little more and took it to the GM Powertrain Employee Car Show.

The building in the background is where my cube currently resides, but back in the day, this was the Pontiac Motor Division World Headquarters. Kinda cool to know that people like John DeLorean ran that division out of that building.

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Several of the MISSL guys are going to a the Wed night T&T at Milan, I plan to run the car and see what the last 6 months of mods have done for my e.t. It's going to be in the 80's temp wise, so we'll see. If I can get my 60' under 2.5 seconds, it'll be a big improvement over last Nov. :)

Couple of pics. I test fit some NASCAR slicks on the back of the car. These are 15x9.5" 4.5" BS and running 27x10.5 Hoosier slicks. Oddly, they physically measure more like 25x12".. I know diameter changes a lot tire-tire on these slicks, but the width as more than I expected. This test fit was to see how the 4.5" BS fit. I ordered some 15x10 Basset Inertia wheels with 5.5" BS, and they should be here tomorrow.

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A few of the MISSL crew went out to Milan Dragway last Wed for the Test and Tune, DonL ran his 396 LT1 96 SS, and Jim ran his 355 96 SS on spray.

I'm happy to say I pulled a full second off my e.t. from last fall. Amazing what a little traction does. I went from 13.40's to 12.40's, at 108-109mph. Not bad considering it was 35 degrees warmer than when I laid the 13.44@110 passes down last Nov. Track prep was allegedly decent (I have basis for comparison, but other regulars said it was OK), and my best 60's were in the 1.87-1.89 range. I played with tire pressure a bit but everything from 19# to 13.5# got me nearly identical 60's. I was still spinning a bit off the line, I will have to see if I get some IC brackets in there to see if that helps. I ran some older 28x10.5" ET Drags I had, and ran them without tubes/screws. I also was launching off the foot brake, my line lock was not working, I need to find the wiring issue..

If I have time, I'll get the wideband hooked up and get some carb tuning, and ignition timing work done before Nationals. Not sure if there is much there, but only experimentation will tell.


Other stuff:

For the slicks, I mounted them on a pair of 15x10" Bassett Inertia Advantage Wheels. They are a relatively lightweight wheel, and are claimed to be 20#. They felt lighter to me, but I've been working out :D).. $99/wheel from Summit, and 5# heavier than the $220 Weld Draglites. Very nice option. If you order them, make sure you get proper lugnuts, the wheels are sized for 5/8" studs and 45 degree seats instead of the standard 60 degree or shank style lug nuts. All Star performance offers a set of 10 nuts for $9.99-12.99 depending on thread. They also take a 1" hex instead of a 3/4" or 13/16" socket, but you can also run around telling everybody you have 1" nuts.. :D

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Finally, the obligatory track pic in 1/4 mile trim.
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Once I figure out how to embed a youtube video, I'll post one of my runs.
 
No major work done on the car, but a few updates.

1) To prepare for a day of thrashing on the road course, I added a power steering cooler. It's actually just a stock 94-96 trans cooler, mounted to the left side of the core support, and plumbed to the steering box. It worked very well, but I still got some levels of pump whining. I have the largest OEM power steering pulley on the pump I am using (2001 Silverado), so it's time to look into other pumps as a potential solution. I'll be looking in the GM parts bin for a solution.

2) For track tires, I bought a used set of Hoosier Entry-level Asphalt Tires from a friend of a friend that runs Late Model Stock here in Michigan. For $40,FOR THE SET, I had to give them a shot.
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3) TO handle some extra brake heat, I put on a set of Hawk HP+ pads. I had very good experience with these pads on the track when running my 2004 GTO. They were also cheaper than the EBC Yellowstuff pads, my second choice. The Hawks did no disappoint, and after driving other Impalas on the same track with EBC Yellow stuff pads, I have to say the Hawks are a better pad. The pedal went a little soft with the EBC's after 2-3 hot laps, sorta stayed there for a lap or two, then the pedal went to the floor shortly after. The Hawk pads stayed tight and firm for 5-6 hard laps. I never got more than that in a row, as the car was getting a little warm, or I encountered slower traffic.

Pic of the car in open track day shoes..

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New issues:

1)After the morning's run session, I was notified that the right rear wheel had a lot of smoke. This turned out to be a leaking axle seal. When I dug into it, I found lots of lube on the rim and inside the rear rotor, and the left side seal showed some seepage too. These turned out to be the original seals for the axle, so I changed them out with fresh ones. I need to check the vent as well though to make sure I don't have pressure built up in the housing when things get toasty..
2) I tried to dial in ~3 degrees of camber into the front of the car. I knew that if the tires were sticky enough, the stock stab bars would not keep body roll under control enough to cause wear on the outside of the tire. I noticed that the left control arm already has the Moog Problem Solver offset cross-shaft, installed to give more negative camber. I still needed ~3/4" of shims to get to -2.2 degrees or so. I physically ran out of shims. For that much to be required to get negative camber, something is up. I will probably have the frame checked out this winter to see what can be done to twist it to a better position. That, or I'll make up a solid "base" spacer to get it shimmed to 0 degrees camber.

Off to look into spring/swaybar upgrades....

Youtube track day vid..
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Did a carb swap and picked up some time in the 1/4 and ran a 12.056 at Milan a few weeks ago.
Last weekend I hauled it down to Atlanta Dragway for the Southern Super Heavy Shootout. 4000# race weight minimum. I ran at 4030# with 1/8 tank of gas and got my first 11 second run. [email protected]. Still 60' in the 1.75 range so there more there. Carb is running fat but with running 4 classes I didnt have time to tune. Got 22 passes in, made the finals in 2 classes and the car started to launch hard to the right. Lost both races at the line. All in all a very good weekend.
This winter might be time for a bigger cam, get the carb set up for the combo rebuild the posi and make some chassis tweaks to help my 60'..
I am thinking i can get an 11.50 out of the current motor, so I kmght put off my next motor yet again...


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Did a carb swap and picked up some time in the 1/4 and ran a 12.056 at Milan a few weeks ago.
Last weekend I hauled it down to Atlanta Dragway for the Southern Super Heavy Shootout. 4000# race weight minimum. I ran at 4030# with 1/8 tank of gas and got my first 11 second run. [email protected]. Still 60' in the 1.75 range so there more there. Carb is running fat but with running 4 classes I didnt have time to tune. Got 22 passes in, made the finals in 2 classes and the car started to launch hard to the right. Lost both races at the line. All in all a very good weekend.
This winter might be time for a bigger cam, get the carb set up for the combo rebuild the posi and make some chassis tweaks to help my 60'..
I am thinking i can get an 11.50 out of the current motor, so I kmght put off my next motor yet again...


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Too cool Mike sounds like you had some fun...Where was the Super Heavy Shootout at ??? ...lets put a 100 shot on it and take it to Tele. in the spring....$$? You need to do a little something because i`m calling you out next summer..... ;~O I`m doing a stockish mild ls3 in a notch........but a daily driver with heat/ac.....no cage..no slicks..pump gas...........if you need any help over the winter let me know...

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Too cool Mike sounds like you had some fun...Where was the Super Heavy Shootout at ??? ...lets put a 100 shot on it and take it to Tele. in the spring....$$? You need to do a little something because i`m calling you out next summer..... ;~O I`m doing a stockish mild ls3 in a notch........but a daily driver with heat/ac.....no cage..no slicks..pump gas...........if you need any help over the winter let me know...

The shootout is in Atlanta every year, this was the 12th year the event has been going on. There was a Northern shootout this past May at Cecil County Dragway in Maryland.. that track is only a few feet above sea level, and they just resurfaced it in March this year. Min race weight is 4000#..

And I don't street race. In fact, last Sat was the first time I even raced heads up.
 
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