sump pump hell ...
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seXysiXer
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yep I gather that but how does the setup work?
looking for a diaghram..scematics or a blueprint..
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4Gas$
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Hmmm, I think I get what you're talking about now - thanks!
seXysiXer
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they use a venturi to pull the water out of the sump. basically the city water creates a vacuum when it rushes past the suction tube at a high velocity.
picture this with water instead of air:
thanks Adam.
Im going to get that done ASAP
:cheers:
avbcon12
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NP Julie, just make sure you do your homework. although the ones that home depot sells are inexpensive they may not move the amount of water out of your sump that you need. that pump i have will move about 1,350 gallons per hour. thats as good as some typical sump pumps!
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avbcon12
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for a typical volume of sump water (my pump runs every ~20 mins but removes ~12 gallons of water each cycle) at my house even when the pump takes 2 gallons to remove 1 of sump water, it will cost me ~$3.25/24 hours to run.
On the heaviest of rainy days when my pump runs every 60 seconds and removes 12 gallons of sump water the cost of city water would only be $65/ 24 hours.
not expensive for the insurance value of having one. the power usually isnt out for more than 24 hours but when it is id gladly pay the $65/ day to not have to even think about my basement flooding.
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dave89iroc
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good point
avbcon12
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when you really compare the water powered pumps to battery, its a no brainer. the battery backups only last a few hours at best with that kind of cycling and truthfully i dont think they would be able to keep up with my water volume that comes into my sump on heavy rain days. for the power consumption of a battery maintainer on the battery backups and the cost of having to replace the battery every couple years it also puts a few points in the water powered category since the same amount of time the water powered pump costs nothing to sit there and not run.
i know i probably come off as a salesman for these pumps (am in no way) but i cannot tell you how much relief i feel having this in place at my moms house. even when i lived there i would constantly think about the power going out. now that i dont live there and my dad passing last year (ie moms at home alone now) i dont even have to think about it. my mom works full time so if the power goes out when shes at work (and doesnt even know) there isnt even a thought about the basement flooding. let alone being able to go on trips whenever you want, even when heavy storms are on their way. her basement has flooded countless times in the past prior to this pump too so its an amazing piece of mind. there of course is the failure of the main pump too which would cause a flood, doesnt even have to be about power outages alone.
basically it put an end to my "sump pump hell"!
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Detroit Gearbox
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I took some pictures and thought I would bring this thread back up
here's the one I had installed @ my mothers home. The pump says guardian on it. it was a very simple & clean & inexpensive installation.
here's the one I had installed @ my mothers home. The pump says guardian on it. it was a very simple & clean & inexpensive installation.
dave89iroc
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you're right, a very clean install
seXysiXer
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I have to figure something else out. My pump runs constantly..
I have been all over the internet doing research. I pay for city water so that is not going to save me alot of money either..
I read that there is suppose to be a hole drilled in the check valve pipe (PVC)
it "burps" itself out every cycle. This is insane. I can sit here and time it.
It runs every 3 minutes..
This can't be right is it?
I have been all over the internet doing research. I pay for city water so that is not going to save me alot of money either..
I read that there is suppose to be a hole drilled in the check valve pipe (PVC)
it "burps" itself out every cycle. This is insane. I can sit here and time it.
It runs every 3 minutes..
This can't be right is it?
avbcon12
Club Member
the water powered pump is not for primary use, backup only so it wont save you money at all. it will only allow you to sit back and not worry about power outages.
there is supposed to be a hole drilled just above the top of the pump in the discharge and under the check valve to make the water drain out after it shuts off and also to bleed the air out when it starts.
3 minutes on a dry day??? what style switch do you have on your pump and how much water is being evacuated each time? are you sure the switch is properly adjusted? are you sure your check valve is working and not letting all the water thats in the discharge drain back into the sump? 3 minutes wouldnt be out of the question if its only moving a few gallons of water each time.
seXysiXer
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as soon as it kicks on and takes the water out there is water flowing right back in just as fast. idk wtf is going on?
I know I live on a high water table but jesus christ!
I just turned in the 2 year old Rigid for a new one remember?
its non submersible. want me to shoot some video of it ?
Wizeguy
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Check the grade around the house...also might wanna extend the down spouts out farther then what they are....few more hours your pump is gonna get a work out!
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seXysiXer
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yes its shallow
also I buried one downspout underground into a trench drain out to my ditch. the other downspouts are super long (away from the foundation.
This is unreal. my front yard is on a slant down towards the ditch in the front. the backyard is flat and the ppl right behind me have an inground swimming pool which probably pushes their water issues over to me.
idk.. Im calling a plumber because I cannot have this pump burn up too.
and its driving my electric bill sky high
thanks for the help Sal and Adam
:cheers:
