stay classy michigan! ver. fab five calling grant hill a black uncle tom

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Grant’s Unedited Response to the Fab Five’s Documentary
Due to space constraints, the editorial posted in the New York Times was shortened. Read Grant’s full, unedited response to the Fab Five’s comments in their recent documentary here.

I am a fan, friend and long time competitor of the Fab Five. This should not be a surprise because I am a contemporary of every member of that iconic team. I have competed against Jalen and Chris since the age of 13. Jalen, Chris, and Juwan are my friends and have been for 25 years. At Michigan, they represented a cultural phenomenon that impacted the country in a permanent and positive way. The very idea of the Fab Five elicited pride and promise in much the same way the Georgetown teams did in the mid-80s when I was in high school and idolized them. Their journey from youthful icons to successful men today is a road map for so many young, black men (and women) who saw their journey through the powerful documentary, Fab Five.

It was a sad and somewhat pathetic turn of events, therefore, to see friends narrating this interesting documentary about their moment in time and calling me a bitch and worse, calling all black players at Duke “Uncle Toms” and, to some degree, disparaging my parents for their education, work ethic and commitment to each other and to me. I should have guessed there was something regrettable in the documentary when Jay Williams and I received a Twitter apology from Jalen before its airing. And, I am aware Jalen has gone to some length to explain his remarks about my family in numerous interviews, so I believe he has some admiration for them.

In his garbled but sweeping comment that “Duke only recruits black Uncle Toms,” Jalen seems to change the usual meaning of those very vitriolic words into his own meaning, i.e., blacks from two-parent, middle class families. He leaves us all guessing exactly what he believes today. And, I wonder if I would have suggested to former Detroit Pistons GM Rick Sund to keep Jimmy King on the team if I had known, back then in the mid-90s, that he would call me a bitch on a nationally televised show in 2011.

I am beyond fortunate to have two parents who are still working well into their 60s. They received great educations and use them every day. My parents taught me a personal ethic I try to live by and pass on to my children. They remain committed to each other after more than 40 years and to my wife, Tamia, our children, and me. They are my role models and always will be.

I come from a strong legacy of black Americans. My namesake, Henry Hill, my father’s father, was a day laborer in Baltimore. He could not read or write until he was taught to do so by my grandmother. His first present to my dad was a set of encyclopedias, which I now have to remind me of the importance of education. He wanted his only child, my father, to have a good education, so he made numerous sacrifices to see that he got an education, including attending Yale. This is part of our great tradition as black Americans. We aspire for the best or better for our children and work hard to make that happen for them. Jalen’s mother is part of our great, black tradition and made the same sacrifices for him.

It is unbeknownst to me what Jalen meant by his convoluted reference to black players at Duke considering how little he knows about any of them. My teammates—all of them, black and white—were a band of brothers who came together to play at the highest level for the best coach in basketball. I know most of the black players who preceded and followed me at Duke. They all contribute to our tradition of excellence on the court. It is insulting and ignorant to suggest that men such as Johnny Dawkins (coach at Stanford), Tommy Amaker (coach at Harvard), Billy King (GM at the Nets), Tony Lang (coach of the Mitsubishi Diamond Dolphins in Japan ), Thomas Hill (small business owner in Texas), Jeff Capel (former coach at Oklahoma), Kenny Blakeley (assistant coach at Harvard), Jay Williams (ESPN analyst), Shane Battier (Memphis Grizzlies) or Chris Duhon (Orlando Magic) now or ever sold out their race. To hint that those who grew up in a household with a mother and father are somehow less black than those who did not is beyond ridiculous. All of us are extremely proud of the current team, especially Nolan Smith. He was raised by his mother, plays in memory of his late father and carries himself with the pride and confidence that they instilled in him. He is the quintessential young Dukie.

The sacrifice, the effort, the education and the friendships I experienced in my four years are priceless and cherished. The many Duke graduates I have met around the world are also my “family,” and they are a special group of people. A good education is a privilege. At Duke, the expectations are high for all of us. Just as Jalen has founded a charter school in Michigan, we are expected to use our education to help others, to improve life for those who need our assistance and to use the excellent education we have received to better the world. The total experience at Duke taught us to think before we act, to pause before we speak and to realize that as adults we have a responsibility to do good, not just do well. A highlight of my time at Duke was getting to know the late, great John Hope Franklin, James B. Duke Professor of History and the leading scholar of the last century on the total history of African Americans in this country. His insights and perspectives contributed significantly to my overall development and helped me understand myself, my forefathers, and my place in the world.

Ad ingenium faciendum, toward the building of character, is a phrase I recently heard. To me, it is the essence of an educational experience. Struggling, succeeding, trying again and having fun within a nurturing but competitive environment built character in all of us, including every black graduate of Duke.

My mother always says, “You can live without Chaucer and you can live without calculus, but you cannot make it in the wide, wide world without common sense.” As we get older, we understand the importance of these words. Adulthood is nothing but a series of choices: you can say yes or no, but you cannot avoid saying one or the other. In the end, those who are successful are those who adjust and adapt to the decisions they have made and make the best of them. I only hope I can instill in my children the same work ethic, the same values, the same common sense approach to life and the same pursuit of excellence my parents, Coach K and Duke gave me.

I caution my fabulous five friends to avoid stereotyping me and others they do not know in much the same way so many people stereotyped you back then for your appearance and swagger. I wish for you the restoration of the bond that made you friends, brothers and icons. I hope you reach closure with your university so you will enjoy all the privileges of its greatness.

I try to live my life as a good husband and father. I am proud of my family. I am proud of my Duke championships and all my Duke teammates. And, I am proud I never lost a game against the Fab Five.

Grant Henry Hill
Phoenix Suns
Duke ‘94
 
Jalen spoke the truth ,maybe he could of used a better chose of words ,where is he wrong?? Duke does not recruit kids white /black from ghettos..not sure about today but back thenthey did not..
 
Jalen spoke the truth ,maybe he could of used a better chose of words ,where is he wrong?? Duke does not recruit kids white /black from ghettos..not sure about today but back thenthey did not..
I agree.. I like Jalen for the simple fact he dont pull any punches and mans up to his mistakes, Webber on the other hand is a coward.
 
Jalen spoke the truth ,maybe he could of used a better chose of words ,where is he wrong?? Duke does not recruit kids white /black from ghettos..not sure about today but back thenthey did not..

doesn't make them uncle tom or racist....
 
Speaking of classy....

Michigan State football coach Mark Dantonio released a statement tonight saying that Brian Linthicum and Max Bullough have been disciplined for their arrest this month in Aspen, Colo.

The one-sentence statement didn’t specify the nature of the penalty.

“This matter is being handled internally and appropriate disciplinary action has been taken,” the statement said.

Linthicum, a tight end, and Bullough, a linebacker, were arrested March 10 after allegedly eluding police following an incident at the Regal Watering Hole. Staff members said Linthicum had assaulted a customer at the bar.

According to an official with the Pitkin County Jail, Linthicum, 23, who will be a senior next season, was charged with misdemeanor third-degree assault and eluding an officer; Bullough, 19, who will be a sophomore next season, was charged with minor in possession of alcohol and eluding an officer.

The players have an April 19 court date.

Bullough, a 6-foot-3, 235-pound third-generation Spartan from Traverse City St. Francis, played in all 13 games as a true freshman, mainly on special teams but with some time at middle linebacker. He finished with 21 tackles, one interception and half a sack. His 13 tackles on special teams tied for second on the team. He made ESPN.com's All-Big Ten freshman team.

Bullough had been expected to succeed Greg Jones, the Spartans' All-America, as the starting middle linebacker.

Linthicum, a 6-5, 238-pounder from Charlottesville, Va., transferred to MSU after playing in every game as a freshman at Clemson. He played in all 13 games last season, including five starts when MSU used a double tight end formation. He had 18 catches for 230 yards. A diving catch in the Capital One Bowl loss to Alabama made the top-10 plays of the day on ESPN's "SportsCenter."

Linthicum had been expected to succeed Charlie Gantt, who made 39 consecutive starts and was second-team All-Big Ten as a senior.

http://www.freep.com/article/201103...Brian-Linthicum-Max-Bullough-been-disciplined


You stay classy MSU!
 
repost much? are we going to go back and post everything anyone's ever posted about either school now? :)

Isn't that what these threads always turn into dude? I thought maybe we could beat Mike and Swifster to the punch. :lol:

Did you get a chance to watch that special Dave? I expected there to be more info on exactly who received what, but being that it was produced by Jaylen Rose I'm not surprised there wasn't more.
 
Maybe, but i understand exactly what he was saying..

What was he saying?

Jalen Rose is an idiot. Guess what, Duke is a school that focuses on academic achievement. They are under no obligation to recruit players from the hood. That doesn't make the black players that go there "uncle toms".
 
http://www.freep.com/article/201103...e-now-has-great-respect-Duke?odyssey=nav|head

Jalen Rose now has 'great respect' for Duke


ESPN's Jalen Rose wants to end the war of words between the Michigan Fab Five and Grant Hill and his former Duke Blue Devils over the harsh comments made in his ESPN Films documentary, “The Fab Five.”
The ESPN basketball analyst was supposed to do a phone interview from Bristol, Conn., with Game On’s Michael McCarthy on Wednesday about his documentary, which became ESPN Films' highest-rated ever, beating all of the “30 for 30” films.

Rose missed the interview, but he left a long voicemail Wednesday night in which he clarified his comments from the documentary and responded to Hill's Wednesday column in the New York Times in which the Phoenix Suns star and former Detroit Piston fired back at Rose and Fab Five teammate Jimmy King.

First, says Rose, his comments about Duke preferring to recruit "Uncle Tom” African-American athletes were said from his former perspective as a high school athlete; not as a 38-year-old man. He's irritated that one comment is overshadowing the rest of the documentary.

"I know a lot of people are trying to circumvent a great documentary that was two hours of quality content and paraphrase a statement that I made and look at the headline but not read the story. That's basically when I talked about my recruiting as a high school student, as it related to Duke. I just want to make sure I verify how I felt about that. I was clearly talking about a framework from 1991-93, not about 2011."

As an adult, he says he has a "broader perspective of great respect and appreciation for Duke, their players and all they've achieved. The comments I made during the 'Fab Five' documentary were clearly reflecting my thoughts as a teenager. I'm proud of the documentary and its success, as well as our accomplishments at the University of Michigan, as well as the work I'm currently doing to support the city of Detroit."

Previously, former Duke point guard Bobby Hurley told Dan Patrick that Rose would have been a benchwarmer for Duke. Both Hill and Hurley reminded Rose that their Blue Devils teams, which won repeat titles in 1991-1992, were 3-0 against the Fab Five.
 
doesn't make them uncle tom or racist....

What was he saying?

Jalen Rose is an idiot. Guess what, Duke is a school that focuses on academic achievement. They are under no obligation to recruit players from the hood. That doesn't make the black players that go there "uncle toms".

No they aren't. But the way I took it, in context, was he was explaining his motivation as a 17-18 year old kid. Everything was in past tense. He talked about how, in retrospect, he was jealous of Grant Hill for having a great life, a great family, and that's where his anger came from. Even when he called Laetner a pussy, he said "then we got on the court, and I realized he had game". I think this got way overblown.

And he's not an idiot. Obviously he wasn't going to a premier prep school when Michigan recruited him, but he was an honor student.
 
It's also funny how the Duke players are taking shots at him, saying they went 3-0. He stated in the doc that when Duke beat them, Duke was the better team. The title loss to UNC was the one he had a hard time swallowing.
 
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