State Senate approved gas tax hike
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Tin
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Check out Kroger, some of their stations carry top tier fuel. The one by me at 14 and Schoenherr does, and they're usually 20 to 30 cents cheaper than the competition for 93. That's without the fuel points earned from shopping.
At the risk of being accused of self-emasculation, I may look into an 87 octane tune for the Scat Pack. I just bought it as a cruiser anyway, don't care about being the fastest. Geoff, I know you would never consider that for the Camaro though since you care about performance.
WhiteHawk
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My 5th gen used to spark knock in 6th gear if I didn't run premium. Keeping knock away trumps performance.
-Geoff
ultradriver10000
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Is there any locations to buy tax free fuels to use in lawn equipment and such?
CruisnCobra
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I know farmers (and probably construction crews) buy it tax free. That's why their diesel is dyed red and you can get in big trouble if they catch it in your on road diesel truck.
Are marinas tax free? Not that it would be any cheaper, every marina I've that sells gas sells it way higher than a normal gas station.
I buy premixed ethenal free two stroke gas from home improvement stores. That is probably tax free (other than sales tax). I think they have 4 stroke gas but it would be pretty expensive to run a lawn mower on it
Roadrage
Easily Irritated
7.3 cents a gallon. I have a 18 gallon tank. I go through 3 or 4 tanks of fuel a week...a grand total of 5.26 a week at most. I think I will survive it. The roads have to be fixed. Blame Snyder and the republicans all you want, the fact is that the roads were neglected for years by democrats and republicans well before Snyder was even a thought.
Only it's not 7.3 cents a gallon you're paying, it's 26.3 cents total. 5th highest in the nation. Like I've said before, it's not a matter of not enough funding. It's a matter of piss poor management.
I'll dodge the pot holes to save money.
4Gas$
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True, so sadly true.
If all my years working in government taught me
anything, its this. The larger the government (Fed),
the worse the waste.
mdhmi
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WhiteHawk
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In general I am OK with the concept of charging us taxes that directly pay for the costs. With cars, the registration fees and gas taxes of cars and trucks should cover the roads.
I have two problems with this tax though. One is that in 10 years, they might just decide to use the money for something else. Even in two years, if Gretchen Whitmer comes in, you are going to see her send a pile of money to the teachers union. That could easily come out of our road tax. Second, just giving the state more money doesn't address spending as a whole. Obamacare is going to cost Michigan 400 million dollars in 2020 unless it gets repealed. This pile of road money is going to start looking very tempting by then...
-Geoff
I have two problems with this tax though. One is that in 10 years, they might just decide to use the money for something else. Even in two years, if Gretchen Whitmer comes in, you are going to see her send a pile of money to the teachers union. That could easily come out of our road tax. Second, just giving the state more money doesn't address spending as a whole. Obamacare is going to cost Michigan 400 million dollars in 2020 unless it gets repealed. This pile of road money is going to start looking very tempting by then...
-Geoff
4Gas$
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Firsthand experience dealing with Federal, state
and local government. The smaller the municipality,
the better it tends to operate. The larger, the worse,
just look at the national debt.
The finical waste I’ve seem would make you sick.
moneypit
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the fact that 275 had to be redone, at taxpayer expense because the contractor who did it the first time used the wrong cement, oh they got the contract to do it again
The fact that we have one of the highest state and local tax rates - 13.1% (only surpassed by Illinois 14.5%, Neb 13.8%, Wisco 13.5%, Conn 13.5%, RI 13.5% and NY 13.3%.) in the entire country and look at the condition of the roads.
We did. See post #1 and #2.
mdhmi
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There are many variables that could explain away the tax rate vs road conditions relative to other states such as the number of of miles of roads in Michigan (enormous), generous trucking transport weight limits, previous neglect which needs to be remediated, etc.
I'm no fan of handing over money blindly, I'm just approaching this from the perspective that I want better roads and more money is the only way the state will achieve that end.