Can you explain this "non-ice" ice process for me too. I'm trying to figure out how ice doesn't form below 32 degrees in ATL. I tried a few websites but am coming up empty!
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~cliff/Roadway2.htm
Holy shit... If that is the actual picture of i75 in GA, there is no way any car could stop on that or get enough traction to move up the hills of 75 done there. That freeway, in the glare of the street light, looks to be a solid sheet of ice.
To clarify, there are 6 snow plows for a city of 6 million people. The intial report from forecasters was that the storm would pass to the south. Far enough to the south that there wasn't an initial concern. By the time they adjusted the report it was too late. The storm hit extremely fast after the adjustment. My wife went into Target and came out about an hour later. In that hour, an 1/8 in of ice was already on the ground. It took her almost 4 hours to go 3 miles and we live 30 miles north of the city. The problem stemmed from many things.
Because of bad forecasting, schools didn't close. When they adjusted the forecast (around 11 AM) schools announced they were closing at noon. half the population of Atlanta started for the doors to get home to get their kids. The storm hit around noon.
Companies then realized they were in trouble and sent everyone else home sometime between noon and 1. By then it was too late.
You have no means of controlling the conditions of the roads.
You take ice + snow + people who see snow once every 3 to 4 years and add very steep hills and an inability to prep the roads and you have a disaster.
I used to laugh at the reaction to weather down here thinking it was funny how a city could shut down from 3 inches of snow for days. I also could never grasp the mentality of abandoning your vehicle. Then I drove yesterday. It was like nothing I had ever driven in before. There is no way to properly plan an attack on a steep ass hill covered in ice and packed bumper to bumper with cars. You're screwed. After 4 hours and only going maybe 3 miles I turned around and went back to work. Gas stations are out of gas, restaurants are closed. There are currenly about 20 of us in the building right now and we have water and protein bars. The hospital across the street has stopped feeding us (I work for the hospital system) because the food is necessary for patient care and this is expected to last another 48 hours.
I don't mind that kind of joking, but the "They got what they deserved" thing really pushed me over the edge.
Obama? :dontknow:I don't think anybody "deserves" to sleep in their car in freezing temps. Well, maybe Hitler if he was still alive, but that's it. No one else.
I saw some people with chains on their tires, but the majority had summer tires on. Loved seeing all the BMW cars just sitting on a hill spinning their tires. The ultimate driving machine unless it involves snow/ice! Just hard to justify such a purchase for a once every 3 year type of ordeal. Next time I bet they close schools at the first mention we may have snow. Of course, then everyone up north with laugh saying we're wimps. I don't mind that kind of joking, but the "They got what they deserved" thing really pushed me over the edge.
Obama? :dontknow:
You know you had a ton of "ribbing" that was owed to you from me. If i thought you were in danger or serious need, you know I'd figure out how I/we could help. PS, did Steph's tampons fit you well?
Obama? :dontknow:
What did I ever do to you? I'm nice to everyone. Except Justin who I still blame for the later Lloyd Carr years.
It's not just you, but the people in general that fled Michigan for the southern states that always rub in how warm it is when we're freezing our asses off. A little payback as long as nobody gets hurtWhat did I ever do to you? I'm nice to everyone. Except Justin who I still blame for the later Lloyd Carr years.
It's not just you, but the people in general that fled Michigan for the southern states that always rub in how warm it is when we're freezing our asses off. A little payback as long as nobody gets hurt![]()
It started sleeting so the office is closing up and we're heading home.
yeah, but wait until you deal with southerners trying to drive in sleet. You're better off staying at the office. It's going to take you 6 hours to get home.
I know. Luckily, I have a back route that I take that doesn't seem to get all the ATL traffic like everywhere else. About the only thing I have to worry about is a random cow or horse getting out of their pasture and being on the road.
It's not just you, but the people in general that fled Michigan for the southern states that always rub in how warm it is when we're freezing our asses off. A little payback as long as nobody gets hurt![]()
Ryan I thought you loved it down there when it sleets?
http://www.motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?134947-I-love-it-down-here&highlight=atlanta
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