question for the paint folks

cjmatt

cjmatt

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well as some of you might be aware, my car is painted "hot rod black" its a smooth satin black. Anyhow, its got a scratch down the side from when we were trailering it and it snagged a tree branch in front of my house. I dunno if there is a way to fix it easily. Can I just scuff and shoot the panel, wetsand it? Anyone have any ideas? it looks like crap and ruins the whole car, makes me want to paint the whole bitch white. Id like to keep it black as its the best looking satin car ive seen in person and its somewhat different from every other notch you see on woodward. But I dont want to have to repaint the whole friggin car everytime it gets a scratch
 
I'm no pro, I just do it as a hobby and for my own stuff. PPG has a paint called Hod Rod Black, and it has a satin finish. It's a single stage urethane. I don't know if it would match the rest of the car in color or sheen though.
 
DRAG-ULA said:
I'm no pro, I just do it as a hobby and for my own stuff. PPG has a paint called Hod Rod Black, and it has a satin finish. It's a single stage urethane. I don't know if it would match the rest of the car in color or sheen though.
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thats what my car is painted, im just not sure if i can spot fix it or not
 
Here's the problem, you don't know what the previous owner sprayed the car with so if you try and repair it matching the gloss will be nearly impossible and you can't blend the semi or flat clear. You can't wet sand or polish the finish obviously because you will make the CC high gloss. Your only option is to panel paint the scratched area and hope your painter is good at matching gloss level.
 
smooth said:
Here's the problem, you don't know what the previous owner sprayed the car with so if you try and repair it matching the gloss will be nearly impossible and you can't blend the semi or flat clear. You can't wet sand or polish the finish obviously because you will make the CC high gloss. Your only option is to panel paint the scratched area and hope your painter is good at matching gloss level.
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I might as well stop browsing these pages casue every thread I rear you have already responded with what I would of said damn near to a T :lol:
 
smooth said:
Here's the problem, you don't know what the previous owner sprayed the car with so if you try and repair it matching the gloss will be nearly impossible and you can't blend the semi or flat clear. You can't wet sand or polish the finish obviously because you will make the CC high gloss. Your only option is to panel paint the scratched area and hope your painter is good at matching gloss level.
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its single stage
 
cjmatt said:
its single stage
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How do you know? Can you find out what supplier of single stage?

that's even worse, with single stage gloss level can change will different hardners/reducers and thickness. But the rules still apply, it will need to be panel painted.

If your interested in spraying the car with the same gloss level you can measure it with a tri-gloss meter , it measures 20* 60* 80* gloss.That should tell you what level of gloss you need
 
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Might be best off just sprayin the whole side of the car, quick scuff on the door and quarter a little detrim and that will help hid and slight glass differences atleast a ittle bit?
 
smooth said:
How do you know? Can you find out what supplier of single stage?

that's even worse, with single stage gloss level can change will different hardners/reducers and thickness. But the rules still apply, it will need to be panel painted.

If your interested in spraying the car with the same gloss level you can measure it with a tri-gloss meter , it measures 20* 60* 80* gloss.That should tell you what level of gloss you need
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haha cause you can see some of the bubbles in it. its not that great of a paint job. just looks good from a couple feet away
 
cjmatt said:
haha cause you can see some of the bubbles in it. its not that great of a paint job. just looks good from a couple feet away
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Take some 2000 grit in an area that can't be seen and sand it, that will tell you for sure. What kind of bubbles? solvent pop?
 
smooth said:
Take some 2000 grit in an area that can't be seen and sand it, that will tell you for sure. What kind of bubbles? solvent pop?
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looks like it was rolled on and dried to fast i guess, i dunno, im dumb when it comes to paint...i can only detail...
 
slideways said:
Might be best off just sprayin the whole side of the car, quick scuff on the door and quarter a little detrim and that will help hid and slight glass differences atleast a ittle bit?
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That might be the way to go. I've seen your car. It looks badass and I'd try to get it fixed.
 
listen its gonna match its black black is the easiest color to match. now the problem your gonna have is even temperature will change the sheen of that paint so what you need to do is do a spray out and set it up next to the car.this will let you know if the sheen is close enough to shoot.then what you would be best off doing since its a semi flat is spraying the whole side. but you need to make sure the sheen is so close that you cant tell then spray the whole side and your golden brother.
 
stroked10 said:
listen its gonna match its black black is the easiest color to match. now the problem your gonna have is even temperature will change the sheen of that paint so what you need to do is do a spray out and set it up next to the car.this will let you know if the sheen is close enough to shoot.then what you would be best off doing since its a semi flat is spraying the whole side. but you need to make sure the sheen is so close that you cant tell then spray the whole side and your golden brother.
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Black, as I have found out over the years is NOT all the same color.. During daytime hours most likely it will all look the same. But get it under some lights in a parking lot at night time, and you will see not all blacks are the same.
 
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