thanks for the info. Im not afraid to run a mix of race gas at the track, and cruies around on pump gas. A friend has a oval port, cast iron headed 468 with 10.7 that runs pump on the street. It will detonate a little at the top of second with out race gas on the street. With my dart heads and efficent chamber, i think ill be ok with 11.4 if i choose my cam carefully. Thanks again for the info. Eric L