phony pony.

bobby_light

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here my 88 notch i just got here is a little progress so far. ill update as i do more.its going to be a grudge car for this year. me and my dad will be doing all of the work.

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Why did you use tubing for the subframes? Not much strength there...

Nice project, keep the pics coming!
 
Why did you use tubing for the subframes? Not much strength there...

Nice project, keep the pics coming!

why is that becuase its not square tubing? i think it will work just fine. id like to hear your opinion on why there's not much strength there..
 
Why did you use tubing for the subframes? Not much strength there...

Nice project, keep the pics coming!

Perhaps you should think outside the BOX---A square tube car like the cookie cutter cars cant cert better than 8.50. 8.50 passes are shake down passes for Phony Pony. There is more torsional rigidity in a round tube than a square or rectangle tube.
 
Perhaps you should think outside the BOX---A square tube car like the cookie cutter cars cant cert better than 8.50. 8.50 passes are shake down passes for Phony Pony. There is more torsional rigidity in a round tube than a square or rectangle tube.

I agree 1000% that torsional rigidity is greatly improved in a round tube vs. a square. No need to think outside the box on that, it is factual!

As far as square tube being used and the car won't certify lower than 8.50s is incorrect. The pic below is a 25.5 that certs to 7.50.

Awaiting the finished pics to get a view on it. I am curiuos how the round tube will be welded to the floor pan and inside the front factory subframes.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

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I agree 1000% that torsional rigidity is greatly improved in a round tube vs. a square. No need to think outside the box on that, it is factual!

As far as square tube being used and the car won't certify lower than 8.50s is incorrect. The pic below is a 25.5 that certs to 7.50.

Awaiting the finished pics to get a view on it. I am curiuos how the round tube will be welded to the floor pan and inside the front factory subframes.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

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You are right--you can use square tube in a 25.5 build(just got my SFI book today) although most 25.5 builds are round tube and we plan to put all of the necessary diagonal bars in place. The tubes actually go thru the front of the factory frame right behind the K-member--as indicated in the pictures. Lots of round tube 25.5 build floor tubes are under the car and are not fully attached to the floor pan--our build is going to be above and below and we will cut the floor at the necessay time for the bars to go thru. Not bad for a first build for an 18 year old? We look forward to seeing at the track this summer. No offense taken.
 
You are right--you can use square tube in a 25.5 build(just got my SFI book today) although most 25.5 builds are round tube and we plan to put all of the necessary diagonal bars in place. The tubes actually go thru the front of the factory frame right behind the K-member--as indicated in the pictures. Lots of round tube 25.5 build floor tubes are under the car and are not fully attached to the floor pan--our build is going to be above and below and we will cut the floor at the necessay time for the bars to go thru. Not bad for a first build for an 18 year old? We look forward to seeing at the track this summer. No offense taken.

Uni-body cars are not required to have diagonal bars in the floor for 25.5. I like the round tube frame ties save a lot of work...looks great!!!!
 
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