Personal Protection

Buuhbye guy said:
Buy a pitbull or a rot, its a win win situation for you and the dog gets a home :)
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You gonna take a trained attack dog with you everywhere you go? :lol:


My pit is part of my family. Someone breaks into my house I want to protect him as much as myself.
 
And sadly according to the law dogs are only considered property so if you're out walking your dog and someone shoots it then runs away you can't do anything.

jsxtreme said:
You gonna take a trained attack dog with you everywhere you go? :lol:


My pit is part of my family. Someone breaks into my house I want to protect him as much as myself.
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LT1Pat said:
And sadly according to the law dogs are only considered property so if you're out walking your dog and someone shoots it then runs away you can't do anything.
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Watch me.


Bob Lee Swagger said:
You don't understand how serious this is. They killed my dog.
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It's dumb to even guess at what you would do in a hypothetical situation like that. Every situation is different.
 
jsxtreme said:
You gonna take a trained attack dog with you everywhere you go? :lol:


My pit is part of my family. Someone breaks into my house I want to protect him as much as myself.
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it was a hypothetical suggestion, not to be taken seriously, but hell if you are gonna listen to me then im gonna up the ante and say get a trunk monkey lol
 
Sleeper said:
LOL I was driving around like that with my airsoft gun on halloween.

That has to be ridiculously illegal though with a real gun.
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If you have a CPL, I don't believe that it is illegal. However, I like mine secured in my holster, mainly because if someone hits your car, your pistol can end up on the floor (i.e., someone does the "hit your car, catch you off guard with accident thoughts, and then rob or carjack you). This became very apparent to me after my phone flew out of reach after I stomped it in reverse the other night. It wasn't cool not having my phone near me, so I would be even more distressed if my gun was floating around somewhere out of reach in my vehicle.

Be careful with it in plain view- you never know when you might be aproached by a jumpy cop that sees a gun and doesn't give you time to say "I have my CPL!"
 
Cops already know if you have a CPL or not before they even start walking to your car so they shouldn't be too jumpy. You obviously still have to disclose though.

standy said:
If you have a CPL, I don't believe that it is illegal. However, I like mine secured in my holster, mainly because if someone hits your car, your pistol can end up on the floor (i.e., someone does the "hit your car, catch you off guard with accident thoughts, and then rob or carjack you). This became very apparent to me after my phone flew out of reach after I stomped it in reverse the other night. It wasn't cool not having my phone near me, so I would be even more distressed if my gun was floating around somewhere out of reach in my vehicle.

Be careful with it in plain view- you never know when you might be aproached by a jumpy cop that sees a gun and doesn't give you time to say "I have my CPL!"
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LT1Pat said:
And sadly according to the law dogs are only considered property so if you're out walking your dog and someone shoots it then runs away you can't do anything.
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Some guy up here blew someone elses dog away because it allegedly started running at him. Cops didn't do shit about it.


Neighborhood watch president shoots, kills dog; its owner disputes the need
By The Saginaw News
June 25, 2009, 8:11AM

Tensions are high on a Saginaw street where the neighborhood watch president shot and killed his neighbor's dog.

Jose Barajas, Southwest Saginaw Neighborhood Association president, told police he shot Onyx, a 50-plus-pound pit bull and shar-pei mix, with a 40-caliber Glock after the dog broke its chain and charged him at 1223 Maple on June 18.

Barajas said he was working outside the house next door when he heard a resident crying for help. Diana M. Fick, 52, said she was mowing her backyard about 7:30 p.m. when neighbor Samantha A. Griffus' dog lunged at her. Fick said Onyx perched atop the tailgate shell and jumped off toward her, breaking his chain. She said she screamed for the owner and used the lawnmower as a buffer to keep the dog at bay.

Griffus didn't hear her, but Barajas did. When the dog turned on him, he said he shot it two times.

Barajas "didn't have an option," Fick said "He popped him."

Griffus, 19, said the dog was on a 10-foot chain attached to a tailgate shell on the lawn. She said Barajas had no right to shoot her dog because it hadn't left her property.

Splatters of the dog's blood are still on the tailgate shell, Griffus said. She said she thinks Onyx was chained when Barajas shot him and broke the chain afterward. A few weeks ago, Barajas had threatened to "shoot the dog if it pooped in his yard again," Griffus said.

Barajas has a permit to carry a concealed weapon and often patrols his neighborhood as part of its watch group.

Saginaw police investigated and cleared Barajas.
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Buuhbye guy said:
it was a hypothetical suggestion, not to be taken seriously, but hell if you are gonna listen to me then im gonna up the ante and say get a trunk monkey lol
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdLLdh1xECg"]YouTube- Trunk Monkey Compilation[/ame]

Seriously, though. After reading these threads, I'm getting my CPL soon.
 
standy said:
If you have a CPL, I don't believe that it is illegal. However, I like mine secured in my holster, mainly because if someone hits your car, your pistol can end up on the floor (i.e., someone does the "hit your car, catch you off guard with accident thoughts, and then rob or carjack you). This became very apparent to me after my phone flew out of reach after I stomped it in reverse the other night. It wasn't cool not having my phone near me, so I would be even more distressed if my gun was floating around somewhere out of reach in my vehicle.

Be careful with it in plain view- you never know when you might be aproached by a jumpy cop that sees a gun and doesn't give you time to say "I have my CPL!"
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Yup, your best bet if getting pulled over with it in plain sight or in the vehicle at all is to put the keys on the roof of the car, keep your hands on the steering wheel after the LEO greets you just tell him you do have your CPL and you do have your firearm with you. Disclose its location and I'm sure they won't have a problem with it. i've heard storires that some cops will take it away as soon as they pull you over though.
 
That seems pretty ridiculous...

Put your hands on the steering wheel and keep the interior dome light on, that's all you have to do if you want to get on the cops good side. Legally they have no right to take your gun (without giving it back). If they take your gun it was just to run the serial number to make sure it wasn't stolen.

99slverZ said:
Yup, your best bet if getting pulled over with it in plain sight or in the vehicle at all is to put the keys on the roof of the car, keep your hands on the steering wheel after the LEO greets you just tell him you do have your CPL and you do have your firearm with you. Disclose its location and I'm sure they won't have a problem with it. i've heard storires that some cops will take it away as soon as they pull you over though.
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LT1Pat said:
That seems pretty ridiculous...

Put your hands on the steering wheel and keep the interior dome light on, that's all you have to do if you want to get on the cops good side. Legally they have no right to take your gun (without giving it back). If they take your gun it was just to run the serial number to make sure it wasn't stolen.
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They will give it back. If you have a CPL and get pulled over while carrying your best bet is the keep your hands on the wheel, and like you said turn the dome light on. I always put my keys on the roof just because. TELL THEM you have a CPL and where the gun is at. They will respect that. I believe they are allowed to take it just check the numbers, not sure on that. Of course they would have to give it back. I wouldn't have a problem with it, they are just doing they're job. Although I don't think anyone with a stolen gun would tell a cop they are carrying. :lol:
 
The only reason for a cop to "borrow" my gun would be for his peace of mind while we conduct business. I keep mine wedged between the two sections of my split bench seat and it works very well, fits quite snugly. The grip is presented nicely and it can be drawn smoothly and quickly. The key is still to be aware of people approaching the vehicle though.
 
LT1Pat said:
Cops already know if you have a CPL or not before they even start walking to your car so they shouldn't be too jumpy. You obviously still have to disclose though.
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No they don't....Running a plate will not disclose if the driver has a CPL.
 
The Sopranos said:
No they don't....Running a plate will not disclose if the driver has a CPL.
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yeah, couple more steps, they run your plate, get owner info, then run owners name through LEIN and then they know you have aCPL



and legally, you only need to disclose if you are carrying, but always a good idea to disclose that you have a CPL
 
blackhawk2000 said:
Call Kurt from Centennial and buy some Fox Labs from him. 810-765-1597. It's the best you can buy. Then save your money up and get a CPL.

Tazers are currently illegal in MI. Airsoft guns are a bad idea. Big flashlights are not practical to carry around. Fox Labs is your best option.
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I tried to order the fox labs from here :http://www.defensedevices.com/mean-green-pocket-size-keychain.html
But, it says they cannot ship to MI because we only allow 2% fox labs is 23%. Do you think kurt gets the 23% or stuff that only 2%?
 
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