pa super comp c4

I know a guy that races his car alot and he has sent his back one time to get it rebuilt in the last couple of years.
 
pa's internal components are decent quality, however c-4's are limited to weight & hp, and clutch life is limited. the life time warranty is something of a sales gimmick. you have to pay shipping both ways and something like $250 fee for them to "freshen" your unit up each time. its a life time of job security for them.
By the time your done buying the trans, bell housing, converter, shifter, mount, dipstick, drive shaft, you will have about the same money as a glide or th400 and mid plate, and end up with a trans that will withstand more hp and outlive the c-4 many times over,more constant reaction times, and depending on application, possibly faster et's.
But I understand the resistance of running a gm in a ford.
 
ive had 1 for 5 years and just hurt it last year for the first time ever. when my car was down we used it in 93blowers car so it has ALOT of passes and street miles on it. i love it, best thing i ever bought for my car. ridings rebuilt it for me when i hurt it last year so i didnt have to ship it out.
 
Detroit Gearbox said:
pa's internal components are decent quality, however c-4's are limited to weight & hp, and clutch life is limited. the life time warranty is something of a sales gimmick. you have to pay shipping both ways and something like $250 fee for them to "freshen" your unit up each time. its a life time of job security for them.
By the time your done buying the trans, bell housing, converter, shifter, mount, dipstick, drive shaft, you will have about the same money as a glide or th400 and mid plate, and end up with a trans that will withstand more hp and outlive the c-4 many times over,more constant reaction times, and depending on application, possibly faster et's.
But I understand the resistance of running a gm in a ford.
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if he already has a c4 in his car he wont need to buy all that stuff. he will if he switches to a t400, or glide he will. then you need to worry about crossmember, headers, and exhaust bolting up, flywheel balance, bell, shifter, driveshaft and everything else that comes into play with it.
 
johnquick302 said:
if he already has a c4 in his car he wont need to buy all that stuff. he will if he switches to a t400, or glide he will. then you need to worry about crossmember, headers, and exhaust bolting up, flywheel balance, bell, shifter, driveshaft and everything else that comes into play with it.
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well i talked to who was suposed to be the owner this morning and he claims there is no fee. just send the trans in....but he said there is some things he dosent cover but hasn't had a issue with that yet..so it seems like a deal to me..
 
I had considered get a C4 from them, but when I started aksing around, I heard far too many times that sure they'll warranty it once or twice, but if you are on the edge of grenading it, they see you keep sending it in and breaking the same parts, they start charging you for it.

Again this is not first hand knowledge but it is what I was told by several people, and if thats how they do business, I would much rather deal with a local or atleast somewhat local guy.

I was planning on making quite a bit more power sometime in the near future so I am puting in a th400, but since I just got the deal of a life time on a 4.125 bore Iron Eagle block, I will be needing the th400 anyway :gr_grin:
 
I have a super comp in my car and haven't had any issue. A ton of 9.4-9.6 passes at 3000lbs without issue. I bought it used so I didn't get a warranty and freshened it once on my own. I broke the forward drum once when line pressure was cut down due to an external trans filter. I removed the filter, replaced the drum and haven't had an issue since.
 
Teef racing said:
well i talked to who was suposed to be the owner this morning and he claims there is no fee. just send the trans in....but he said there is some things he dosent cover but hasn't had a issue with that yet..so it seems like a deal to me..
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Their web site has some information
- Warranty is not transferable.
- Customer pays all shipping costs.
- Warranty work will only be performed by Performance Automatic

Ive had a customer that went through a half a dozen in a season, and they always charged him for repair, but everyones results differ. "some things are not covered"? I wonder if they can supply a list of which "things" they do and don't cover and their prices.
Funny, they don't post that on their web site.

Your right john, if he already has a c-4 in his car, it would definitely be less expensive than swapping out to something else, but not by much. Assuming he already has a sfi flywheel, most are already drilled for a gm converter. I never ran in to any exhaust or header problems/interference with a adaptor plate, but every vehicle is different. if he already has a aftermarket shifter, purchasing brackets for a gm are 25-30 bucks including shipping. Drive shaft, most customers I get are usually going from 300 to 6-700 hp, and need a new one anyway @ 350 bucks.
So for 1600 for a trans, 425 for a adaptor,150 for a cross member, 45 for a dip stick & tube, 20 for a mount, 350 for a drive shaft. Only other things are torqueconverter & cooler. For someone starting from scratch, its near the same cost.
 
Detroit Gearbox said:
Their web site has some information
- Warranty is not transferable.
- Customer pays all shipping costs.
- Warranty work will only be performed by Performance Automatic

Ive had a customer that went through a half a dozen in a season, and they always charged him for repair, but everyones results differ. "some things are not covered"? I wonder if they can supply a list of which "things" they do and don't cover and their prices.
Funny, they don't post that on their web site.

Your right john, if he already has a c-4 in his car, it would definitely be less expensive than swapping out to something else, but not by much. Assuming he already has a sfi flywheel, most are already drilled for a gm converter. I never ran in to any exhaust or header problems/interference with a adaptor plate, but every vehicle is different. if he already has a aftermarket shifter, purchasing brackets for a gm are 25-30 bucks including shipping. Drive shaft, most customers I get are usually going from 300 to 6-700 hp, and need a new one anyway @ 350 bucks.
So for 1600 for a trans, 425 for a adaptor,150 for a cross member, 45 for a dip stick & tube, 20 for a mount, 350 for a drive shaft. Only other things are torqueconverter & cooler. For someone starting from scratch, its near the same cost.
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yea he said he was gonna send a whole list of everything...really didnt want a powerglide in the car just seems it would make it boring... and its also a carb motor on race gas and the aod might make it load up street driving?


ima keep talking to the owner and go through all the details before i buy one..
 
Teef racing said:
really didnt want a powerglide in the car just seems it would make it boring... and its also a carb motor on race gas and the aod might make it load up street driving?
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every application is different. depending on weight, hp, ft lbs of torque, adding hp in the near future.
whether your strictly drag racing, or street driving.
you need to look @ all the numbers to come up with whats best for you and your wallet.
a aode with a brake might be a good choice for you if your doing a lot of highway/street driving. you don't have to shift it into od unless your @ highway speeds.
 
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