NHRA shortens TF and FC to 1000 feet

strtracer

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No more 1/4 mile for the Nitro class, at least for a little while:

http://www.nhra.com/content/news/30355.htm

7/02/2008

As the investigation continues into the tragic accident that took the life of driver Scott Kalitta, NHRA has announced that beginning at the Mopar Mile High Nationals in Denver, Colo., both the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes will race to 1,000 feet instead of the traditional 1,320 feet or one-quarter mile. This is an interim step that is being taken while NHRA continues to analyze and determine whether changes should be made to build upon the sport's long standing safety record, given the inherent risks and ever-present dangers associated with the sport.

This interim change was made by NHRA in collaboration with professional race teams. NHRA believes that racing the Top Fuel and Funny Car classes to 1,000 feet will allow NHRA and the racing community time to evaluate, analyze and implement potential changes based on the safety initiatives outlined last week.

With the change, fans will still be able to enjoy the sights, sounds and thrill of NHRA nitro racing with speeds around 300 mph and quick elapsed times to 1,000 feet.

Over the years, NHRA has implemented many initiatives to enhance safety including measures to limit speeds from increasing, personal protective gear, vehicle improvements, and track enhancements such as sand traps, catch nets and concrete barriers the entire length of the drag strip.

In the wake of the tragic series of events that took Kalitta's life, the following technical issues are currently under investigation: 1) what might be done to reduce engine failures; 2) parachute mounting techniques and materials as well as identifying a parachute material that could be more fire resistant; 3) exploring whether there is a way to increase brake efficiency when cars lose downforce due to the loss of the body; 4) analyzing additional methods that might be developed at the top end of the race track to help arrest runaway vehicles; 5) considering whether current speeds should be further limited or reduced to potentially improve safety.

“The board members of the Professional Racers Owners Organization (PRO) wholeheartedly and unanimously support this decision,” said its president Kenny Bernstein. “We want to thank NHRA for listening to our input and suggestions to incorporate these changes. It is not lost on any of us that this constitutes a change in our history of running a quarter-mile, but it's the most immediate adjustment we can make in the interest of safety which is foremost on everyone's mind. This may be a temporary change and we recognize it is not the total answer. We will continue to work hand in hand with NHRA to evaluate other methods of making Top Fuel and Funny Car competition safer so that we might return to our quarter-mile racing standard. We also want to thank Connie Kalitta for his invaluable input. He has been a rock through these difficult times.”
 
I am not an expert in Fuel motors, but I do know that they are now only 500 CI. They make north of 7000 HP. I am not sure that limiting CI would work.

Maybe I could run nitro in my Focus motor. That would be sweet.

I've read a couple of boards where guy are whining about 1000 ft. runs. In reality, these professional racers would run 660 ft if they thought they could get a Wally and make a few shekels.

If some of my favorite drivers stay healthy, I am all for it. Pro stock is what I watch pretty much anyway, and they are staying at 1320 ft.
 
They're trying to make something extremely dangerous....safe. It's like making cowboys ride a bull that is not only friendly, but also appreciates spurs and clowns. Very wierd.
 
It seems like a knee-jerk reaction to me. Although tragic this latest accident is unusual. If this had happened twice at the same event or even twice in the same season then it would seem a more valid argument.

All the teams are scrambling for sure I'll bet.
 
If the cars went slower and not faster, I think people would lose interest....
It seems most of the public could care less about the safety of the drivers, they just want to see 300+mph dragsters... Sad imo...
 
I dont think its a bad idea, 1000' race between top fuel and funny cars will still be exciting. Your still talking about a 280mph race compared to a 300mph+ race.
 
I personally think it's dumb, and not going to make anything any "safer". Knee-jerk reaction, for sure.

Also, doesn't this sort of make things even LESS safe? I mean, teams will be able to run a higher gear ratio because they won't have to go as far....wouldn't they accelerate even quicker now? Or be more prone to spinning the tires, losing control, etc? If there's less room to make up for any possible mistakes, wouldn't drivers push harder and/or take more risks to get ahead?
 
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Well, what I'm saying is these guys...especially these guys...are true racers who are not just going to sit around with the same setup and hope they win. Someone's going to mess with the gearing or something to be right at the redline when they pass the 1000' mark instead of the 1320'. Quicker acceleration, more g forces, more competitive, more risks taken...I think as far as safety goes, this is actually a step in the wrong direction.
 
This is stupid. TF and FC see 280mph in the 1/8th, if they wanted to make it significantly safer for the racers they would limit the speeds to only 150mph or so.......even then all hell can break loose.

I just can't believe PRO feels the drivers are that much more safer at "only" 300mph instead of 325mph......come on.

--Joe
 
I personally think it's dumb, and not going to make anything any "safer". Knee-jerk reaction, for sure.

Also, doesn't this sort of make things even LESS safe? I mean, teams will be able to run a higher gear ratio because they won't have to go as far....wouldn't they accelerate even quicker now? Or be more prone to spinning the tires, losing control, etc? If there's less room to make up for any possible mistakes, wouldn't drivers push harder and/or take more risks to get ahead?
I would imagine that they are still limiting the gear ratio to the same one they run now (I think 2.73 or maybe a low 3.00).
 
With this kind of thinking, NASCAR should have shortened the Daytona 500 to 400 miles after the Earnhardt wreck. :sad:
 
The gear ratio is set. These cars are already running on the edge of performance, they won't be able to change very much to run 1000 feet. If they put more clutch in they will just break the tires loose. Some of these tracks that were built 60's just don't have the room to stop. Also with the rev limiters most of the failures have been on the big end of the track. I think its actually going to make for some tighter racing, and make it a little more interesting instead of just being the shumacher show in the finals every week.
 
The gear ratio is set. These cars are already running on the edge of performance, they won't be able to change very much to run 1000 feet. If they put more clutch in they will just break the tires loose. Some of these tracks that were built 60's just don't have the room to stop. Also with the rev limiters most of the failures have been on the big end of the track. I think its actually going to make for some tighter racing, and make it a little more interesting instead of just being the shumacher show in the finals every week.

I agree, I think the 1000' thing is mostly to give them an extra 320 feet to stop.

If they really get serious, they will limit the % nitromethane to keep the motors together. They have successfully done that in the past - it used to be 90% and they went to 85% a few years ago - and the technology keeps making the cars faster anyways. But if they can keep the motors together, it will be much safer.

-Geoff
 
I think going to the 1000' sucks because you'll never be able to really compare records from these races because a lot can happen to mess up a run between the 1000' and the 1320' marks. You'll always wonder if the pass that sets the new 1000' record would have actually continued on to the best 1320'. I mean it's tough to compare anyways because the rules have changed but you can't even see the progression very easily without taking it to the full quarter. It's weird that they ran the Norwalk race at 1320' and then changed to the 1000' for the next one.
 
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