New Ford quality that bad?

I think a lot of this is the dealers do not have qualified mechanics case and point:

2009 F-350 dually v10 engine truck has 8500 miles. Truck starts to run like shit so we take it to the dealer. Dealer has the truck for two weeks and says there is a hole in the piston and the engine is blown. Now this vehicle was purchased from Ford and only serviced at the local ford dealer. Every aspect even oil changes was done exclusively by Ford. I go down there and say how did this happen it must be a defective engine. The dealer says your warranty ran out three months ago you are not covered the cost for a new motor is $10,000!!!

So I call Dearborn and bitch telling then that this is complete bull shit and that this truck must have a bad motor because the only thing it has ever towed was a 8000 boat three times. I inform them to look up the service records from their dealership to confirm its maintenance record. They kindly told me to go pound sand and said they would give me $8,000 credit on a new truck as trade in. I told them hell no since this truck is NEW and only has 8500 miles and should last another 150k plus.

I spoke to a few friends who told me to get a second opinion so I did. I had a tow truck go to the dealership to pick it up. They were in "oh shit" mode. They told me I was going to take it somewhere and they were going to "hack" it all up and the repairs would cost more $$. They reinforced that all of their mechanics had looked at the truck and the motor was bad. I towed it anyway and with an hour they were on the phone offering me $4000 in credit towards a repair if I brought the truck back that day.

I took the truck to a junkyard where they work on F series trucks all the time. The 23 year old uncertified mechanic delivered the truck to me the next day. He looked in the motor and found that the motor was in perfect order. No holes in the pistons nothing! What he found was the catalytic converter was melted. I have several other horror stories about the same Ford dealership doing bullshit like this. Its just sad that had I not gotten a second opinion I would have paid $10,000 for a motor I didn't need. I wonder how much of that goes on every single day??
 
My father-in-law bought a new Suburban down in Florida, (where he lives), to tow his trailer with, and had a similar story. He ended getting it fixed, then traded it in on a new Super Duty, 6.7, which he loves, and has had zero problems with. Tech issues are wide-spread, and not brand specific.
 
I think a lot of this is the dealers do not have qualified mechanics case and point:

2009 F-350 dually v10 engine truck has 8500 miles. Truck starts to run like shit so we take it to the dealer. Dealer has the truck for two weeks and says there is a hole in the piston and the engine is blown. Now this vehicle was purchased from Ford and only serviced at the local ford dealer. Every aspect even oil changes was done exclusively by Ford. I go down there and say how did this happen it must be a defective engine. The dealer says your warranty ran out three months ago you are not covered the cost for a new motor is $10,000!!!

So I call Dearborn and bitch telling then that this is complete bull shit and that this truck must have a bad motor because the only thing it has ever towed was a 8000 boat three times. I inform them to look up the service records from their dealership to confirm its maintenance record. They kindly told me to go pound sand and said they would give me $8,000 credit on a new truck as trade in. I told them hell no since this truck is NEW and only has 8500 miles and should last another 150k plus.

I spoke to a few friends who told me to get a second opinion so I did. I had a tow truck go to the dealership to pick it up. They were in "oh shit" mode. They told me I was going to take it somewhere and they were going to "hack" it all up and the repairs would cost more $$. They reinforced that all of their mechanics had looked at the truck and the motor was bad. I towed it anyway and with an hour they were on the phone offering me $4000 in credit towards a repair if I brought the truck back that day.

I took the truck to a junkyard where they work on F series trucks all the time. The 23 year old uncertified mechanic delivered the truck to me the next day. He looked in the motor and found that the motor was in perfect order. No holes in the pistons nothing! What he found was the catalytic converter was melted. I have several other horror stories about the same Ford dealership doing bullshit like this. Its just sad that had I not gotten a second opinion I would have paid $10,000 for a motor I didn't need. I wonder how much of that goes on every single day??

I did not know the trans tech that worked on mine while it was there for 30+ days, but I do know a few other guys. One thing I did learn was a lot of the time the tech hands are tied by what Ford will let them replace or repair.

In my case, they had several engineers out from Ford trying to figure my car out and the repairs were ok'd by these engineers. As stated they never were able to get mine right.
I stopped by one day after work and there was 3 engineers and the dealer trans tech all standing around the car scratching their heads.
 
I tried just calling Ford, went through their buy back program. I just got the run around.

Dealer would do nothing at all to help me.
 
The dealer is just too big too care about 1 customer, at least that is how they made me feel.

The rental they provided was a joke, interior was covered in dog hair and had bad breaks. Ford Corp actually stepped in and helped there.
 
The dealer is just too big too care about 1 customer, at least that is how they made me feel.

The rental they provided was a joke, interior was covered in dog hair and had bad breaks. Ford Corp actually stepped in and helped there.

No dealer should be too big to care about 1 customer. Now there is another side to that coin. Sometimes dealers do things above and beyond and customers still don't think it's enough, that's when it's time for them to part ways. We have had cases like that. Truth be told there are customers that are just looking for something for free. (not saying this is the case with you by any means).
 
No dealer should be too big to care about 1 customer. Now there is another side to that coin. Sometimes dealers do things above and beyond and customers still don't think it's enough, that's when it's time for them to part ways. We have had cases like that. Truth be told there are customers that are just looking for something for free. (not saying this is the case with you by any means).

Before the animal lovers get mad, no issues with pets. However I do not want to drive a car that is covered in dog hair and smells like a wet dog. I ended up getting a better rental car, but I really don't think I should've had to call Ford Corp and the GM of the dealership to make that happen.
 
I think a lot of this is the dealers do not have qualified mechanics case and point:

2009 F-350 dually v10 engine truck has 8500 miles. Truck starts to run like shit so we take it to the dealer. Dealer has the truck for two weeks and says there is a hole in the piston and the engine is blown. Now this vehicle was purchased from Ford and only serviced at the local ford dealer. Every aspect even oil changes was done exclusively by Ford. I go down there and say how did this happen it must be a defective engine. The dealer says your warranty ran out three months ago you are not covered the cost for a new motor is $10,000!!!

So I call Dearborn and bitch telling then that this is complete bull shit and that this truck must have a bad motor because the only thing it has ever towed was a 8000 boat three times. I inform them to look up the service records from their dealership to confirm its maintenance record. They kindly told me to go pound sand and said they would give me $8,000 credit on a new truck as trade in. I told them hell no since this truck is NEW and only has 8500 miles and should last another 150k plus.

I spoke to a few friends who told me to get a second opinion so I did. I had a tow truck go to the dealership to pick it up. They were in "oh shit" mode. They told me I was going to take it somewhere and they were going to "hack" it all up and the repairs would cost more $$. They reinforced that all of their mechanics had looked at the truck and the motor was bad. I towed it anyway and with an hour they were on the phone offering me $4000 in credit towards a repair if I brought the truck back that day.

I took the truck to a junkyard where they work on F series trucks all the time. The 23 year old uncertified mechanic delivered the truck to me the next day. He looked in the motor and found that the motor was in perfect order. No holes in the pistons nothing! What he found was the catalytic converter was melted. I have several other horror stories about the same Ford dealership doing bullshit like this. Its just sad that had I not gotten a second opinion I would have paid $10,000 for a motor I didn't need. I wonder how much of that goes on every single day??


Im unsure of why your cat failed prematurely. With that said, you experienced a terrible dealership experience.

Sometimes they can "goodwill" parts/labor or give you a deep discount. The fact that they backpedaled immediately says it all.
 
Before the animal lovers get mad, no issues with pets. However I do not want to drive a car that is covered in dog hair and smells like a wet dog. I ended up getting a better rental car, but I really don't think I should've had to call Ford Corp and the GM of the dealership to make that happen.

No, no you shouldn't have had to.
 
The Rock has got you covered, he can fix any Ford heh !

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I had a 2014 Focus as a rental car last week and I hated it. The radio kept fucking up when I had my phone plugged into the USB (would randomly encounter an error and stop working). The transmission was absolute garbage...downshifted WAY too often, and even downshifted so hard once that it somehow put itself into a neutral state (I was passing someone at the time - it downshifted as I started passing, then again as I was completing the pass, but instead of a lower gear it went into no gear somehow and just free-revved when I pressed on the accelerator. I had to put it into neutral and shift back into drive, all while still in the opposite lane).

So yeah, I agree.
 
I had a 2014 Focus as a rental car last week and I hated it. The radio kept fucking up when I had my phone plugged into the USB (would randomly encounter an error and stop working). The transmission was absolute garbage...downshifted WAY too often, and even downshifted so hard once that it somehow put itself into a neutral state (I was passing someone at the time - it downshifted as I started passing, then again as I was completing the pass, but instead of a lower gear it went into no gear somehow and just free-revved when I pressed on the accelerator. I had to put it into neutral and shift back into drive, all while still in the opposite lane).



So yeah, I agree.


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Sounds like your issue is with a shady dealership more than actual quality. Now, granted, that's a bit early for a catalytic to fail, but it's not exactly a huge deal.

For the record, back when I was a car noob and had my LT1 Camaro, it started acting up, bogging, wouldn't accelerate, etc... Eli at Car Pro in Mt. Clemens diagnosed it as a bad trans, and I paid him $2000 to have a new one put in. Seemed OK for a week and started doing it again... turns out the cat was plugged and that crook took me for $2k. He refused to do anything about it and even threatened "throw me out on my ass" if I came back into his shop about it.


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Sounds like your issue is with a shady dealership more than actual quality. Now, granted, that's a bit early for a catalytic to fail, but it's not exactly a huge deal.

For the record, back when I was a car noob and had my LT1 Camaro, it started acting up, bogging, wouldn't accelerate, etc... Eli at Car Pro in Mt. Clemens diagnosed it as a bad trans, and I paid him $2000 to have a new one put in. Seemed OK for a week and started doing it again... turns out the cat was plugged and that crook took me for $2k. He refused to do anything about it and even threatened "throw me out on my ass" if I came back into his shop about it.


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Wow!, now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time, what ever happened to that guy.
 
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