Need recommendation on getting a garage built

Relax! I basically yelled across the room "hey I know of someone who wants a garage/shed built, you interested?" & He said "of course, depending on what he wants typically the max you can do is 120 sq ft without needing a permit depending on the city".. Trust me, we're not sketchy, it was a very quick and no-detail conversation. We have our licenses and insurance and they know all the laws, no need to worry. and no, we don't make the homeowner pull permits.




derbydad276 said:
smh... No Sorry.... wrong .....You Will need to pull a permit.... DO NOT DEAL with any builder that says you dont need one .... or wants you to pull the permit for them as a (homeowner)
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derbydad276 said:
smh... No Sorry.... wrong .....You Will need to pull a permit.... DO NOT DEAL with any builder that says you dont need one
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Not true, every community is different. Copied directly from my building departments FAQ...

A permit is not required for the following:
Sheds less than 200 square feet in size
Driveways on grade on private property
Strip and re-shingle Roof
Painting, wallpapering, or other similar finishes.
Prefabricated above-ground pools or in-ground pools that are less than 24 inches deep
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--Joe
 
grr456 said:
In my sub, one guy went around suing everyone who built, or was in the process of building a second garage which didn't conform exactly to the subdivision rules. The lawsuit went on for a couple of years and the city made everyone either tear down their new garage or downsize it.

Also in Troy, your maximum outbuilding squarefoot space is totally based on how much living space you have.

Gary
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WTF...
 
depends on citys classification of a shed, by me if it has a foundation its a garage so if your shed has a concrete floor its a garage
 
stay as far away from miller garages as you possibly can. I had my garage built by them a while back, a 24x24. every floor square is cracked the whole length of the square and is crumbling, which is 12x12. the first one started cracking within a month of them pouring it, by the way, this was in sept, they explained to me that they are not responsible because of michigans weather which is bullshit. I hope someone from miller sees this post.
 
Tom Kuznicki said:
stay as far away from miller garages as you possibly can. I had my garage built by them a while back, a 24x24. every floor square is cracked the whole length of the square and is crumbling, which is 12x12. the first one started cracking within a month of them pouring it, by the way, this was in sept, they explained to me that they are not responsible because of michigans weather which is bullshit. I hope someone from miller sees this post.
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That's pretty bad... didn't even make it through a frost cycle

Do you have some pictures?
 
And this is why I'm building a 1200 SQ ft garage, went down that road before with every possible option. Easier to just build a new house LOL
 
Yeah, I'm going to need a 4" slab and a rat wall, and Fraser makes you pull a permit for any sheds.
 
Tom Kuznicki said:
stay as far away from miller garages as you possibly can. I had my garage built by them a while back, a 24x24. every floor square is cracked the whole length of the square and is crumbling, which is 12x12. the first one started cracking within a month of them pouring it, by the way, this was in sept, they explained to me that they are not responsible because of michigans weather which is bullshit. I hope someone from miller sees this post.
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Call the state file a complaint...
 
Shed :) :)

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unfortunately, it's been too long and if I have it fixed, which I was told that the whole floor must be removed to re-pour, I will have a reputable company do it.
 
Every city/township has different regs for size of "accessory buildings" based on total lot square footage, percent coverage for main dwelling vs. secondary structure. And then toss in the neighborhood association limitations and it gets to be a real good time.

I went through this bullshit in Royal Oak about 15 years ago where they made me reduce the size of the overhangs because they considered the overhangs into the 'footprint' and therefore my secondary structure was too large...even though we had a double lot and had nowhere near the limit for lot coverage. I also had to apply for a variance to keep the 8'x10' utility shed that we already had on the property because they only allowed one secondary structure. I had to appear in front of the board and they sent letters to all the neighbors asking them if it was an issue for them (even though we had a 6' privacy fence and you could barely see the shed...and most didn't even know we had one). In the end, I got approval...but it was a giant pain and was nothing but a revenue generator for the city.

Good luck with the project...start with your city building department and go from there...if you haven't already.
 
Curious about this as well. I'm in Troy with a 2.5 car attached garage currently. Would love to put in another garage so I can keep all the car stuff in one and everything else in the other. I looked up Troy's rules and it seems like I can have up to a 885 sq ft detached garage (600 or .02 * 0.5 acres, whichever is greater). There's rules about how close it can be to the house and property lines which might effectively limit the size based on how my house is on the lot but I have about 0.5 acres so there's some flexibility.

This is what I found for Troy:
https://www.troymi.gov/Portals/0/Fi...dApplications/AccessoryStructureStandards.pdf
 
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grr456 said:
I knew about all of this as I have checked in on this before. They changed the rules after some guy built a huge 2 story garage with 16' doors for his electrical or plumbing contracting business. You used to be able to have a larger garage......

Still don't know any pricing, though.....

Gary
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There's even a bigger garage in Troy but it's attached to the house :lol:
 
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