legal question about cpl

KENNEBELL2.6

KENNEBELL2.6

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I am going saturday to take the class and was reading msp's website. Six years ago I was pulled over for driving on suspended. I went to court and was charged with driving on suspended however through the hearing I was only convicted of "no op's in possession". Will this stop me from getting my permit? It also states something about a second of subsequent offense. Any idea what that means? Thanks Motown!
 
KENNEBELL2.6 said:
I am going saturday to take the class and was reading msp's website. Six years ago I was pulled over for driving on suspended. I went to court and was charged with driving on suspended however through the hearing I was only convicted of "no op's in possession". Will this stop me from getting my permit? It also states something about a second of subsequent offense. Any idea what that means? Thanks Motown!
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I see no reason for that to stop you from getting a CPL, sounds like you were convicted of not having your dl on you


I'm no lawyer though, so take that for what's its worth
 
The only thing that will stop you is if you had a felony with in the last five years....

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bsnub said:
The only thing that will stop you is if you had a felony with in the last five years....

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Please do not spew false statements. Felons CAN NOT have ANY firearm(Long gun or Hand gun) in there possession unless the charge is expunged.

Here are the misdemeanor disqualifiers straight from the MI CPL Application. Any one of the following in the past EIGHT years and you will be denied.



Failing to stop when involved in a personal injury accident, MCL 257.617a

Operating while intoxicated, second offense, MCL 257.625(9)(b)

Drunk driving, commercial vehicle, MCL 257.625m(4)

Reckless driving, MCL 257.626

Driving while license suspended or revoked, second or subsequent offense, MCL 257.904
Operating aircraft while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance with prior conviction, MCL 259.185

Hindering or obstructing certain persons performing official weights and measures duties, MCL 290.629

Hindering, obstructing, assaulting, or committing bodily injury upon director or authorized representative, MCL 290.650

Operating an ORV under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.81134(5)-(6)

Operating a snowmobile under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.82127 punishable under section MCL 324.82128(1)(b) or (c)

Operating a vessel under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.80176 punishable under MCL 324.80177(1)(b)

Possessing a controlled substance, controlled substance analogue, or prescription form, MCL 333.7403

Operating a locomotive under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, or while visibly impaired, MCL 462.353(4)

Displaying sexually explicit matter to minors, MCL 722.677

Assault or domestic assault, MCL 750.81

Aggravated assault or aggravated domestic assault, MCL 750.81a

Breaking and entering or entering without breaking, MCL 750.115

Fourth-degree child abuse, MCL 750.136b

Accosting, enticing, or soliciting a child for immoral purposes, MCL 750.145a

Vulnerable adult abuse, MCL 750.145n

Solicitation to commit a felony, MCL 750.157b

Impersonating a peace officer or medical examiner, MCL 750.215

Illegal sale of a firearm or ammunition, MCL 750.223

Illegal use or sale of a self-defense spray, MCL 750.224d

Sale or possession of a switchblade, MCL 750.226a

Improper transportation of a loaded firearm, MCL 750.227c

Failure to have a pistol inspected, MCL 750.228

Accepting a pistol in pawn, MCL 750.229

Failure to register the purchase of a firearm or a firearm component, MCL 750.232

Improperly obtaining a pistol, making a false statement on an application to purchase a pistol, or using false identification to purchase a pistol, MCL 750.232a

Intentionally aiming a firearm without malice, MCL 750.233

Intentionally discharging a firearm aimed without malice, MCL 750.234

Possessing a firearm on prohibited premises, MCL 750.234d

Brandishing a firearm in public, MCL 750.234e

Possession of a firearm by an individual less than 18 years of age, MCL 750.234f

Intentionally discharging a firearm aimed without malice causing injury, MCL 750.235

Parent of a minor who possessed a firearm in a weapon-free school zone, MCL 750.235a

Setting a spring gun or other device, MCL 750.236

Possessing a firearm while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug, MCL 750.237

Weapon-free school zone violation, MCL 750.237a

Indecent exposure, MCL 750.335a

Stalking, MCL 750.411h

Fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, MCL 750.520e

Reckless, careless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in injury or death, MCL 752.861

Careless, reckless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in property damage, MCL 752.862

Reckless discharge of a firearm, MCL 752.863a
 
KENNEBELL2.6 said:
I am going saturday to take the class and was reading msp's website. Six years ago I was pulled over for driving on suspended. I went to court and was charged with driving on suspended however through the hearing I was only convicted of "no op's in possession". Will this stop me from getting my permit? It also states something about a second of subsequent offense. Any idea what that means? Thanks Motown!
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Based on what I posted as long as you do not have TWO driving while suspended in the past eight years you are good to go. The gun board MAY want you to appear in person to explain why you were charged with the DWLS but they can not deny you if it was the only charge in the past eight years.
 
Siegel1719 said:
Please do not spew false statements. Felons CAN NOT have ANY firearm(Long gun or Hand gun) in there possession unless the charge is expunged.

Here are the misdemeanor disqualifiers straight from the MI CPL Application. Any one of the following in the past EIGHT years and you will be denied.



Failing to stop when involved in a personal injury accident, MCL 257.617a

Operating while intoxicated, second offense, MCL 257.625(9)(b)

Drunk driving, commercial vehicle, MCL 257.625m(4)

Reckless driving, MCL 257.626

Driving while license suspended or revoked, second or subsequent offense, MCL 257.904
Operating aircraft while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance with prior conviction, MCL 259.185

Hindering or obstructing certain persons performing official weights and measures duties, MCL 290.629

Hindering, obstructing, assaulting, or committing bodily injury upon director or authorized representative, MCL 290.650

Operating an ORV under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.81134(5)-(6)

Operating a snowmobile under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.82127 punishable under section MCL 324.82128(1)(b) or (c)

Operating a vessel under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, second or subsequent offense, MCL 324.80176 punishable under MCL 324.80177(1)(b)

Possessing a controlled substance, controlled substance analogue, or prescription form, MCL 333.7403

Operating a locomotive under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, or while visibly impaired, MCL 462.353(4)

Displaying sexually explicit matter to minors, MCL 722.677

Assault or domestic assault, MCL 750.81

Aggravated assault or aggravated domestic assault, MCL 750.81a

Breaking and entering or entering without breaking, MCL 750.115

Fourth-degree child abuse, MCL 750.136b

Accosting, enticing, or soliciting a child for immoral purposes, MCL 750.145a

Vulnerable adult abuse, MCL 750.145n

Solicitation to commit a felony, MCL 750.157b

Impersonating a peace officer or medical examiner, MCL 750.215

Illegal sale of a firearm or ammunition, MCL 750.223

Illegal use or sale of a self-defense spray, MCL 750.224d

Sale or possession of a switchblade, MCL 750.226a

Improper transportation of a loaded firearm, MCL 750.227c

Failure to have a pistol inspected, MCL 750.228

Accepting a pistol in pawn, MCL 750.229

Failure to register the purchase of a firearm or a firearm component, MCL 750.232

Improperly obtaining a pistol, making a false statement on an application to purchase a pistol, or using false identification to purchase a pistol, MCL 750.232a

Intentionally aiming a firearm without malice, MCL 750.233

Intentionally discharging a firearm aimed without malice, MCL 750.234

Possessing a firearm on prohibited premises, MCL 750.234d

Brandishing a firearm in public, MCL 750.234e

Possession of a firearm by an individual less than 18 years of age, MCL 750.234f

Intentionally discharging a firearm aimed without malice causing injury, MCL 750.235

Parent of a minor who possessed a firearm in a weapon-free school zone, MCL 750.235a

Setting a spring gun or other device, MCL 750.236

Possessing a firearm while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a drug, MCL 750.237

Weapon-free school zone violation, MCL 750.237a

Indecent exposure, MCL 750.335a

Stalking, MCL 750.411h

Fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, MCL 750.520e

Reckless, careless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in injury or death, MCL 752.861

Careless, reckless, or negligent use of a firearm resulting in property damage, MCL 752.862

Reckless discharge of a firearm, MCL 752.863a
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Ok so.what i.said is not a false statement

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KENNEBELL2.6 said:
I am going saturday to take the class and was reading msp's website. Six years ago I was pulled over for driving on suspended. I went to court and was charged with driving on suspended however through the hearing I was only convicted of "no op's in possession". Will this stop me from getting my permit? It also states something about a second of subsequent offense. Any idea what that means? Thanks Motown!
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You will be good. You were charged with DWLS, but convicted of no op's. I've had three DWLS but only convicted once. I got no op's on the other two
 
Does it state any where how long u have to go untill u can apply if u were pulled convicted of driving on suspended licence
 
Like said before they will make you go in front of a board, I had one on mine but I just called in and explained and they pushed it through
 
bsnub said:
Ok so.what i.said is not a false statement

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NO FELON can EVER possess ANY gun much less a CPL unless it is expunged or pardoned etc.(So no 5 year felony rule)
What I posted is the list of disqualifying MISDEMEANORS that you can not have on your record for eight years prior to applying for your CPL.
 
Operating a locomotive under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance, or while visibly impaired, MCL 462.353(4)

LMAO
 
Ok what kind of reason are they looking for. I drove because I had to go to work. My job required that I could drive so getting a ride would have raised a bunch of flags and questions. It was a bad idea and I paid for it but out of pocket and at work.
 
I wouldn't say you were trying to fly under the radar. I would say you had no choice to drive to work once, you were pulled over and issued a ticket. Don't say you were contentiously driving and breaking the law.
 
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