Gretchen Whitmer to propose $0.45/gallon gas tax to fix roads

Maybe they should stop using salt in the winter. That stuff eats everything and is the main cause to our shitty roads.

P.s. I voted bill schuette.
 
Side note too. I was just on i80 and i90 in Illinois this last weekend hauling a trailer. $32.50 to drive on their junk expressway for no more than a hour! I don't make $32.50 a hour why should they?(you think Michigan roads are bad, go check that one out). We give way too much money to the government and they do nothing for us. What about our insurance money that we already pay too?

This entire state government would shit if we all decided to cancel our auto insurance and quit paying our plate tags (which also just went up). They would retaliate with shutting down gas stations I bet, but it's gonna have to be a money war for any of this to change, and I can tell the civilians are loosing this battle as of now. No voting, no town hall meeting, nothing is gonna change till we figure out how to take our money back.


Sad when getting a ticket for driving without insurance is cheaper than paying the insurance. Between my girlfriend and I with no points at all are paying 3600 a year to drive a plpd escape, plpd explorer, and a Lincoln with full coverage.

The government has every plan of making us broke while they stay rich.

Not even sure any of this makes sense, I'm just ranting right now. LOL
 
I just read this live on the Frank Beckmann show on WJR 760...


$.45 Fuel Tax Increase…

Good morning Sir, in regards to Governor Wit-more- money, her justification for
the fuel tax increase is we are already paying an average of $600 per year on
car repairs, she makes it sound like if we pass this new tax increase, we’ll no
longer have any of these repair costs.

What do southern states pay in average repairs?
Who is fact checking these claims of hers?

Glad I live 22 miles from the Michigan / Ohio state line.
 
I called my representative today and bitched. Everyone here should pick up the phone and do the same. Tell everyone you know to do the same thing.
 
Duke said:
I called my representative today and bitched. Everyone here should pick up the phone and do the same. Tell everyone you know to do the same thing.
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Great idea Joe - especially if your rep is a Republican. Make sure they don't go along with this. The Democrats can't push this through without getting some Republicans to support in both houses.

-Geoff
 
I just read her detailed proposal it is horrible. Whitmer wants to go back to double taxing small business. Snyder eliminated taxes on small business because when money left the business, it left as income and was subject to income tax. Now Whitmer wants to throw 6% on earnings right on top of that. She is going right back the Granholm era.

I have said this a million times on here, but I am going to say it again. I don't care if you like or dislike a candidate. If you vote Republican, you will get less taxes. If you vote Democrat, you will get more. So if you want a warm fuzzy and to feel good about government, then keep voting for Dems. If you want to keep the money you earn, vote Republican. It IS that simple. You think the roads are going to magically get better? You are delusional if you do. I can guarantee you, though, you will never pay less than $3 for gas by the end of next year. And be running over the same amount of pot holes that you do now.

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
I just read her detailed proposal it is horrible. Whitmer wants to go back to double taxing small business. Snyder eliminated taxes on small business because when money left the business, it left as income and was subject to income tax. Now Whitmer wants to throw 6% on earnings right on top of that. She is going right back the Granholm era.

I have said this a million times on here, but I am going to say it again. I don't care if you like or dislike a candidate. If you vote Republican, you will get less taxes. If you vote Democrat, you will get more. So if you want a warm fuzzy and to feel good about government, then keep voting for Dems. If you want to keep the money you earn, vote Republican. It IS that simple. You think the roads are going to magically get better? You are delusional if you do. I can guarantee you, though, you will never pay less than $3 for gas by the end of next year. And be running over the same amount of pot holes that you do now.

-Geoff
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Only that's :bs: because we didn't. We actually voted down the last gas tax hike and Snyder and crew pushed it on us anyways.
 
jsxtreme said:
Only that's :bs: because we didn't. We actually voted down the last gas tax hike and Snyder and crew pushed it on us anyways.
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I think Snyder was a RINO (Republican in name only). So I am not counting him. He did fix the Michigan business tax environment though, even though Gretchen is about to plow it under. What happened in 2015 was BS though, I agree with you.

Did anyone do their taxes yet? I am down THOUSANDS from last year on my Federal. Remember that'll goes away if the Democrats get back in 2020. Voting Republican has never been more important.

-Geoff
 
Unfortunately a TON of people seem to think a huge tax return is VERY important. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Mostly democrats.
 
WhiteHawk said:
I think Snyder was a RINO (Republican in name only). So I am not counting him. He did fix the Michigan business tax environment though, even though Gretchen is about to plow it under. What happened in 2015 was BS though, I agree with you.

Did anyone do their taxes yet? I am down THOUSANDS from last year on my Federal. Remember that'll goes away if the Democrats get back in 2020. Voting Republican has never been more important.

-Geoff
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My wife and I gave the Feds thousands less and got back a couple hundred more on the return than last year. I’m ok giving the government a small no interest loan. :lol:
 
mikesfastss said:
this makes no sense, do you want the government to keep your money? I don’t lol.
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If you get money returned, it's because you gave too much. Many people think it's good when they get a big return and that makes zero sense unless you aren't capable of saving your own money and you need the government to be your savings account.

That's what he is referring to. We paid 3% less taxes this year...works for me. Our return was abnormally large also because last year, H&R block suggested we set aside more money...they we're wrong. According to news reports weeks ago, returns are "Lower than expected", "people are angry!"
 
As much as I hate to say it, my income doubled last year and I got back about 1k more then last year, I also paid a lot more then last year so it’s hard to tell to be honest. I talked to my tax man/ accountant and he told me what to set my deductions at to get a minimal return with no worries of tax bill.
 
This is a good read on Gretchen's tax hike. https://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/40-percent-of-whitmers-2020-gas-tax-hike-wont-support-roads?utm_source=CapCon+Daily&utm_campaign=b194450077-MichCapCon_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_404c6e2c75-b194450077-260865189

Cliff notes: When it's all done 40% of the 2020 tax hike won't go toward fixing roads. That is because as soon as they get dedicated or directed funding for a project they immediately move any non-dedicated or non-directed moneys somewhere else. In this case of the new 1.26 billion only 764 million would find it's way to the transportation budget while 499 million would replace existing money in the transportation budget that would be redirected to her pet programs. This is common at all levels of government, local on up.

Story of my life. The girls with big racks always seem to cost me money.
 
mikesfastss said:
As much as I hate to say it, my income doubled last year and I got back about 1k more then last year, I also paid a lot more then last year so it’s hard to tell to be honest.l.
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The middle-income bracket which tops out at 165k changed from 25% to 22%. If you make less than 165k, you paid 3% less in taxes this year.

Congrats anyways I hope you double your income again this year.
 
WhiteHawk said:
I think Snyder was a RINO (Republican in name only). So I am not counting him. He did fix the Michigan business tax environment though, even though Gretchen is about to plow it under. What happened in 2015 was BS though, I agree with you.

Did anyone do their taxes yet? I am down THOUSANDS from last year on my Federal. Remember that'll goes away if the Democrats get back in 2020. Voting Republican has never been more important.

-Geoff
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I don't think you understand how Government works. It wasn't just Synder....
 
AutoRoc said:
The middle-income bracket which tops out at 165k changed from 25% to 22%. If you make less than 165k, you paid 3% less in taxes this year.

Congrats anyways I hope you double your income again this year.
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doubt I will double it again, I started working at fca jeep plant back in Jan 18 and worked almost 3500 hours this year lol. I’m hoping to tone it down about 600 hours this year lol
 
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