Gas to rise 7 cents a gallon, registration fees 20 percent for road plan

I originally read that it was 3.3 cent increase for gas, 7.3 cent increase for diesel and 40% increase in vehicle registration. In the article i read online it also stated that the senate had just OK'd what I wrote. This was maybe 3 weeks ago?
 
jsxtreme said:
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/43982818-story


20 percent hike in vehicle registration fees and a 7.3-cent gasoline tax increase. Now it's up to the House and Governor.

Clearly they don't give a shit that we already voted down the sales tax hike. They're going to raise your taxes whether you like it or not.
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you missed the part where those of us who work for a Living get fucked

"The legislation also would make more lower- and middle-class homeowners and renters eligible for what would be a more generous homestead property tax credit"
 
Good thing I live 20 miles from the Ohio border.......
.....and all those Ohio gas stations :naughty1:
 
Why does the road tax fall on to just car owners? Not such a good Idea for someone that owns 3-4 cars. It like only taxing property owners for schools. Why not raise the rate for drivers licenses instead and make everyone pay. Everyone benefits from good roads. Everyone should pay. Entire system is broken. No long term plan for a more permanent fix to the roads.
 
Detroit Gearbox said:
Why does the road tax fall on to just car owners? Not such a good Idea for someone that owns 3-4 cars. It like only taxing property owners for schools. Why not raise the rate for drivers licenses instead and make everyone pay. Everyone benefits from good roads. Everyone should pay. Entire system is broken. No long term plan for a more permanent fix to the roads.
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This.
 
Detroit Gearbox said:
Why does the road tax fall on to just car owners? Not such a good Idea for someone that owns 3-4 cars. It like only taxing property owners for schools. Why not raise the rate for drivers licenses instead and make everyone pay. Everyone benefits from good roads. Everyone should pay. Entire system is broken. No long term plan for a more permanent fix to the roads.
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Stop making sense. It upsets the masses!
 
Detroit Gearbox said:
Why does the road tax fall on to just car owners? Not such a good Idea for someone that owns 3-4 cars. It like only taxing property owners for schools. Why not raise the rate for drivers licenses instead and make everyone pay. Everyone benefits from good roads. Everyone should pay. Entire system is broken. No long term plan for a more permanent fix to the roads.
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This is why the increase in sales tax made more sense. Everyone pays, even those who don't own a vehicle or drive.
 
How about they prove they can actually build or improve a road that'll last more than 2 seasons, and that the existing money is being effectively and efficiently used and then I'll be willing to cough up more without complaint.

I have no problem paying my fair share as I use the roads daily...what I do have a problem with is handing over money when it's mismanaged, used corruptly, and generally doesn't fix the problem. Fix the fundamental issues in the process and I'll open my wallet without complaint.
 
DBK said:
Volume of dealer plates about to rise significantly.
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and intransit repair plates, 20.00 per year,

spoke with my brother this morning,

transfer 3 cars to florida plates saves me 200 a year before the rate increase
 
BAd Dad said:
No discussion on our truck weight limits destroying our roads?
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i don't see big trucks going down 90% of the roads that are junk.....even upnorth the roads are nicer, salt isn't used also, just the requirement for whatever the mix of material concrete or blacktop is for a new road is very crappy quality, specially compared to other states

"MDOT engineers have thoroughly studied this issue and the result of this research is that heavier trucks do not cause a disproportionate amount of damage as long as the weight is evenly distributed over an appropriate number of axles. Additionally, trucks over 80,000 pounds make up only less than 5% of all trucks operating on our roads. - See more at: http://justfixtheroads.com/heavy-trucks-and-michigans-roads/#sthash.V1KcEnjc.dpuf"
 
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dline said:
i don't see big trucks going down 90% of the roads that are junk.....even upnorth the roads are nicer, salt isn't used also, just the requirement for whatever the mix of material concrete or blacktop is for a new road is very crappy quality, specially compared to other states

"MDOT engineers have thoroughly studied this issue and the result of this research is that heavier trucks do not cause a disproportionate amount of damage as long as the weight is evenly distributed over an appropriate number of axles. Additionally, trucks over 80,000 pounds make up only less than 5% of all trucks operating on our roads. - See more at: http://justfixtheroads.com/heavy-trucks-and-michigans-roads/#sthash.V1KcEnjc.dpuf"
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Test results from ALL OTHER STATES disagree with these findings.
 
thats nice...but look how many axles we do run

"Michigan’s truck-weight law is designed to control axle loads instead of gross vehicle weight. Research conducted by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials, the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT), and other organizations, has shown that pavement damage is directly related to axle loadings, not gross vehicle weight. Michigan limits the weight allowed on individual axles, depending upon the spacing between them, with a maximum of eleven axles.

The maximum gross vehicle weight allowed on a “federal-weight-law truck” is 80,000 pounds, with four of its five axles carrying 17,000 pounds each and the steering axle carrying 12,000 pounds. The calculated maximum allowable gross vehicle weight on the heaviest “Michigan-weight-law truck” is 164,000 pounds, which can only be achieved by use of eleven properly-spaced axles. Most of these axles carry only 13,000 pounds each. The alternative to a single Michigan combination carrying 160,000 lbs. on 11 axles is two standard trucks carrying 160,000 lbs. on 10 axles. Pavement research has shown that these two smaller trucks actually cause about 60 per cent more pavement damage than does the single heavier truck, because of their higher axle loadings and the extra weight of additional tractors at about ten tons each."

- See more at: http://justfixtheroads.com/michigans-unique-truck-weight-law/#sthash.1DzF6m3j.dpuf
 
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