Front license plate on all cars in michigan!
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93 saturn sl2
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x2! Not ruining my front bumper for another plate.
boosted gt
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photo radar and red light camera people have to behind this push.
front plates and brackets add more weight and drag which means less mpg(not very green)
poor people will have to deal with added cost of front brackets
prepare for more tickets in the mail from cameras which WILL follow this law.
im glad our state is in such good shape that lawmakers have the time to come up with this trivial bs
front plates and brackets add more weight and drag which means less mpg(not very green)
poor people will have to deal with added cost of front brackets
prepare for more tickets in the mail from cameras which WILL follow this law.
im glad our state is in such good shape that lawmakers have the time to come up with this trivial bs
YLWFVR
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Swifster
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You'll be further ahead calling and e-mailing your own representative...
4 cam tbird
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I'm working on an email to my state senator (John Pappageorge). I will copy and paste it here when I'm done. You can send an email to him, and I'm assuming other state senators right from this site. Figure out your district from the maps, click on your senator's name, and you can find places for contact and email right through the site.
http://www.senate.michigan.gov/SenatorInfo/bydistricts.html
I've heard before that one person contacting a representative gets counted as a much much higher number because so people do it that they just kind of have to figure out what their constituents think from a small sample size and expand from there. And I can't imagine there is enough care in support of this to generate much contact. So if everyone fires off a quick email we should be able to do our part to help kill this.
http://www.senate.michigan.gov/SenatorInfo/bydistricts.html
I've heard before that one person contacting a representative gets counted as a much much higher number because so people do it that they just kind of have to figure out what their constituents think from a small sample size and expand from there. And I can't imagine there is enough care in support of this to generate much contact. So if everyone fires off a quick email we should be able to do our part to help kill this.
4 cam tbird
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Feel free to make modifications as you see fit but otherwise plagiarize the shit out of this. Unfortunately I'm getting an error when trying to send this through the website, pretty annoying. So I either need to find an email address or try again later. If the prior, I'm sure many of you also have Pappageorge as a rep so I will post his email.
Dear Mr. Pappageorge,
I read in the news that your colleague in the Michigan State Senate, Tupac A. Hunter, has introduced a bill to require front license plates on vehicles in Michigan. The purpose of my email is to express my displeasure with this bill and to encourage you to do your part in defeating it.
New cars in Michigan have been sold without the bracket for front license plate mounting for many years. We have purchased three new cars in my household since 2009 and none of them have come with a bracket for a front plate. If this law passes, it will cause expense and inconvenience to all Michigan residents.
Front license plates also disrupt the aerodynamics of the front of vehicles, thus hurting the vehicles fuel economy and causing further expense to Michigan drivers. The impact may not be large but for someone like myself that drives 25,000 miles or more per year a small decrease in fuel economy adds up.
These expenses are in addition to the expense of adding the second plate itself. I'm sure the expense of the second plate will also be added on to our vehicle registration fees. Hitting Michigan residents bank accounts in a third way.
And what do we gain as residence for all of these expenses and inconveniences? Nothing. Having a front plate isn't doing anything to make us safer. There are reflective surfaces in the headlight housings of vehicles that will alert you to an oncoming car with its lights off. Officers approach vehicles from the rear when pulling them over so the rear plate provides all of the information gathering that an officer really needs. The claims made by Tupac Hunter on the reasons for adding a front plate based on the article I read are trivial and misguided.
Thank you for your time and I hope you take my thoughts into consideration with regard to this bill.
Sincerely,
Dear Mr. Pappageorge,
I read in the news that your colleague in the Michigan State Senate, Tupac A. Hunter, has introduced a bill to require front license plates on vehicles in Michigan. The purpose of my email is to express my displeasure with this bill and to encourage you to do your part in defeating it.
New cars in Michigan have been sold without the bracket for front license plate mounting for many years. We have purchased three new cars in my household since 2009 and none of them have come with a bracket for a front plate. If this law passes, it will cause expense and inconvenience to all Michigan residents.
Front license plates also disrupt the aerodynamics of the front of vehicles, thus hurting the vehicles fuel economy and causing further expense to Michigan drivers. The impact may not be large but for someone like myself that drives 25,000 miles or more per year a small decrease in fuel economy adds up.
These expenses are in addition to the expense of adding the second plate itself. I'm sure the expense of the second plate will also be added on to our vehicle registration fees. Hitting Michigan residents bank accounts in a third way.
And what do we gain as residence for all of these expenses and inconveniences? Nothing. Having a front plate isn't doing anything to make us safer. There are reflective surfaces in the headlight housings of vehicles that will alert you to an oncoming car with its lights off. Officers approach vehicles from the rear when pulling them over so the rear plate provides all of the information gathering that an officer really needs. The claims made by Tupac Hunter on the reasons for adding a front plate based on the article I read are trivial and misguided.
Thank you for your time and I hope you take my thoughts into consideration with regard to this bill.
Sincerely,
4 cam tbird
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4 cam tbird
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I was going to mention my error when sending an email through normal means, but when I clicked submit again it just sent. So they seem to have fixed whatever that issue was.
Detroit Gearbox
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I'm not sure how far HB4633 has made it, but its another useless bill that will cost tax payers.
This bill requires every license plate to be replaced every 10 years. They cite the reason for this bill is that some old plates have their reflective paint pealing off and they are hard for police to read. Here's a novel idea, how about making those with pealing or hard to read plates get new ones. If police see a unreadable plate, pull them over and give them a ticket that allows them 30 days to get a replacement, and charge a minimal amount for the new plate (like 5 bucks).
Not to mention you can kiss those permanent trailer plates (that they tripled the fees for and told you would never have to pay again) good by.
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/10/michigan_license_plates_would.html
This bill requires every license plate to be replaced every 10 years. They cite the reason for this bill is that some old plates have their reflective paint pealing off and they are hard for police to read. Here's a novel idea, how about making those with pealing or hard to read plates get new ones. If police see a unreadable plate, pull them over and give them a ticket that allows them 30 days to get a replacement, and charge a minimal amount for the new plate (like 5 bucks).
Not to mention you can kiss those permanent trailer plates (that they tripled the fees for and told you would never have to pay again) good by.
http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/10/michigan_license_plates_would.html
4 cam tbird
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Nebraska changes their plates way more often than once every 10 years. Then again, they have higher registration fees than we have here too.
