FCA accused of bypassing emissions testing in same manner as VW

once Trump comes in, it will all go away....and more jobs will stay in America. Make it great again.
 
Volkswagen wasn't the only one cheating. Israel got 30 billion from Obama so shut up.

I would listen to you, but liberals told me the Dukes of Hazzard is racist, so I can not take anything a racist like Bo Duke says seriously.
 
I would listen to you, but liberals told me the Dukes of Hazzard is racist, so I can not take anything a racist like Bo Duke says seriously.

I watched the Dukes of Hazzard it was a very good show. The only bad thing was they used the battle flag of the traitors. Bad choice!
 
The plot thickens. It turns out that FCA hasn't built any of the vehicles in question since the 2016 model year ended - EPA wont approve 2017. So this has been going on for like a year, and now the EPA goes public right before Obama leaves? Yea, I can see why Sergio is pissed, this has politics written all over it.

-Geoff
 
The plot thickens. It turns out that FCA hasn't built any of the vehicles in question since the 2016 model year ended - EPA wont approve 2017. So this has been going on for like a year, and now the EPA goes public right before Obama leaves? Yea, I can see why Sergio is pissed, this has politics written all over it.

-Geoff


It is pretty odd timing.
 
And it's auto show week with all the media in town. What a bunch of crap. Can't wait for EPA to get dismantled.
 
You guys have been listening to that tool Alex Jones too long. As I stated earlier Volkswagen wasn't the only automaker cheating on emissions. Btw they were doing it in Europe as well and got fined over there too.
 
You guys have been listening to that tool Alex Jones too long. As I stated earlier Volkswagen wasn't the only automaker cheating on emissions. Btw they were doing it in Europe as well and got fined over there too.

I used to work at Chrysler, then Daimler-Chrysler. I can assure you first hand that they are not smart enough to pull something like this off. A friend of mine just quit the emissions lab there a few months ago too. Said it was a complete clusterfuck.

It sounds like they did produce some vehicles that upon further inspection didn't pass emissions. Then when the feds started asking about stuff, it turns out that they didn't do the paperwork right either - that is the part where it talks about them not properly disclosing emissions devices. You wouldn't believe how many little pieces of paper and tubes are all called emissions devices now. Even the air cleaners have emissions devices in them now (activated carbon paper, and PCV). Then you have to pass tailpipe emissions, plus you have to pass emissions after a car shuts off and just sits there. Totally different situations. It is truly a maze of regulations, and diesels are even worse.

This is just incompetence. There is no way that somebody at FCA cooked up a scheme at the VW level to cheat. I could be wrong, like I was wrong about Trump losing to Hillary, but I doubt it!

-Geoff
 
I used to work at Chrysler, then Daimler-Chrysler. I can assure you first hand that they are not smart enough to pull something like this off. A friend of mine just quit the emissions lab there a few months ago too. Said it was a complete clusterfuck.

It sounds like they did produce some vehicles that upon further inspection didn't pass emissions. Then when the feds started asking about stuff, it turns out that they didn't do the paperwork right either - that is the part where it talks about them not properly disclosing emissions devices. You wouldn't believe how many little pieces of paper and tubes are all called emissions devices now. Even the air cleaners have emissions devices in them now (activated carbon paper, and PCV). Then you have to pass tailpipe emissions, plus you have to pass emissions after a car shuts off and just sits there. Totally different situations. It is truly a maze of regulations, and diesels are even worse.

This is just incompetence. There is no way that somebody at FCA cooked up a scheme at the VW level to cheat. I could be wrong, like I was wrong about Trump losing to Hillary, but I doubt it!

-Geoff

Whew! Glad to hear it's just incompetence. Makes me feel better about the three of six cars at my house that are FCA products :)
 
Try all they want there is no such thing as a clean diesel, the entire design of a diesel motor is not good for clean
 
Whew! Glad to hear it's just incompetence. Makes me feel better about the three of six cars at my house that are FCA products :)



Your cars emissions affect your FEELINGS???

"Glad it was incompetence" regarding Gov. emissions is ok but what if it was about your airbags and seatbelts?

:)
 
All cows need safety and environmental protection!

Dang cows I mean cars. Always mix up the two when its about emissions.
 
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