Entertaining a job offer, but need some advice...

Entertain an offer and then road trip to see the company and surrounding area before deciding. Indy/Indiana cost of living is dirt cheap, keep that in mind when Salary is offered. Downtown indy can be a lot li ke Detroit..outside the greater indy area is like hillbillyville.
As for the MBA..its pretty worthless in the auto injustry unless you want to baby sit people. We pretty much joked about it at GM on a daily basis. Every one seemed to go and get one,and then a high percentage of the guys had them and it meant nothing! But a masters in ME actually does carry weight in the OEM world.

Phil
 
NTIMID8 said:
Entertain an offer and then road trip to see the company and surrounding area before deciding. Indy/Indiana cost of living is dirt cheap, keep that in mind when Salary is offered. Downtown indy can be a lot li ke Detroit..outside the greater indy area is like hillbillyville.
As for the MBA..its pretty worthless in the auto injustry unless you want to baby sit people. We pretty much joked about it at GM on a daily basis. Every one seemed to go and get one,and then a high percentage of the guys had them and it meant nothing! But a masters in ME actually does carry weight in the OEM world.

Phil
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Good to hear...I've heard both sides of the MBA vs Masters ME/EE thing...but everyone seems to agree that doing the professional engineering license is worthwhile. Any experience with that Phil? I am taking my FE's next April unless I can get time to do them before that (I believe they only give them twice a year). Then you need a few years experience before you can take the actual P.E. test.
 
They are normally a solid performer as you might expect. Here's some background on their performance this year.

The reason they are having a stand out year is the US OEM productions levels were up for Class 8 trucks in general. Now the OEMs have be pre buying engines because if they take delivery before January 1, they can put them into trucks next year without facing the new emissions requirements. So some of the big freight companies and the OEM are "pre-buying" to get around the new regs.

Nexts year's productions levels will drop some but we should still have a decent Class 8 market for another year or two with this cycle.

Rick
 
I would say give it a try. I got lucky with my company as a co-op and had the opportunity to spend 3 months at a couple of our plants. Most of our plants are away from the beaten path, but the people are VERY friendly and willing to help you until you figure things out. I would guess it would be the same at Cummins. Give it a try. Worst case you don't like it but you have some experience that will help you in the job market.

And I agree with everyone else about finding a company that will pay for your advance degree(s). My company paid for my Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering. It's just a piece of paper at the moment, but is a benefit if and when I make a move.
 
Cummins is a awesome company to work for... My cousin worked there but now is working for Jasper which is around the corner from them...

Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't Cummins have a office on Gratoit south of M-59???

And isn't Detroit Desiel looking also? Check them out too Sean... They are on Telegraph south of 96 which would be pretty cool too...
 
Boring ass town, but its not a bad place. I'd be all over it, your options in Michigan are too limited to hang out.
 
I'd get a technical master's first. A lot of MBA programs will credit you for your MS anyways. Indiana University runs an MBA program through GM that counts your techical masters as half of the MBA.

-Geoff
 
i'd take it, lived in N.C for a year and a half when i was 18. trust me relocating is hard for about the first month, then you fit in and it works. i only came home once the whole time i was gone, so it should be better for you
 
It sounds like a great opportunity, I'd go for it. I would also wait a year or two to go for the master's degree (MBA). I've got a guy sitting across from me who's working on his second master's degree, and school constantly gets in the way of his travelling and offsite meetings. I tell him if he'd spend as much time working, as he does going to school, he'd be better off.

Fewer companies are offering pensions, and the benefits offered are on the decline. If you don't like the job, you'll have gained some experience, and it's easier to find a job while you're emloyed. I worked for BorgWarner years ago and the pay was crappy, but it was a good learning experience, plus the stability didn't hurt either (I stayed there for 4 years). I know I am better off for having stayed there, plus when I left I got almost a 40% increase in pay.

I also think you should go with the MBA, as it offers more opportunities for you than a master's in engineering.
 
The fact that Indiana counts a MS as half of an MBA definitly makes me think harder about which to get first if I go to Cummins...I think I'm going to wait a few years either way but I'm definitly going to take my GMATs soon after I graduate since they are good for five years and everything will still be fresh.
 
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