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johnquick302 said:
how much is it gonna cost you to pay somebody to tune your car for you? when i can tune mine with a screwdriver. and with a dig 7 box you can tune each cyl independtly. and a carb set up is cheaper than fuel injection shit so if your a broke bitch it would be easier and cheaper to do it with a carb. so i guess you aint teaching nobody shit. your just talking shit out your ass.
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LOL! I said the same thing...:cheers:
 
camaromann said:
You hit your car with 250 or more right out of the hole? Damn. Didnt think you could do that and hook. Not without tubing your car and 4 linking it anyways.
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if you dont spray your car out of the hole you mine as well not even race. all your et is in the first 330 of a race. the rest dont matter much you can go 10mph faster but if i beat you to the 330 im gonna win most of the times

this is my car, 28x10.5 stock suspension all the nitrous right off the transbrake

 
johnquick302 said:
if you dont spray your car out of the hole you mine as well not even race. all your et is in the first 330 of a race. the rest dont matter much you can go 10mph faster but if i beat you to the 330 im gonna win most of the times

this is my car, 28x10.5 stock suspension all the nitrous right off the transbrake

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Ya, i agree. After messing around with nitrous, i realized that if i sprayed right out of the hole only through first gear, that my car would go just as fast as me hitting it only in 2 and 3 gear. I came to the same conclusion that you explained. Just wasnt sure how much some people were hitting there cars with from the tree. Kinda looks like you blew the tires off a little bit.....or was it mostly exhaust from the bottle?
 
camaromann said:
Ya, i agree. After messing around with nitrous, i realized that if i sprayed right out of the hole only through first gear, that my car would go just as fast as me hitting it only in 2 and 3 gear. I came to the same conclusion that you explained. Just wasnt sure how much some people were hitting there cars with from the tree. Kinda looks like you blew the tires off a little bit.....or was it mostly exhaust from the bottle?
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it was exhaust. if the car is not set up right it will spin and go on the bumper. it took alot of time to get it to work like it does now but i got it figured out pretty much.
 
johnquick302 said:
it was exhaust. if the car is not set up right it will spin and go on the bumper. it took alot of time to get it to work like it does now but i got it figured out pretty much.
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Well thats good to hear. And your car obviously works great. Any advice for a leaf spring car? And did you get any word on that digi 6 box?
 
johnquick302 said:
how much is it gonna cost you to pay somebody to tune your car for you? when i can tune mine with a screwdriver. and with a dig 7 box you can tune each cyl independtly. and a carb set up is cheaper than fuel injection shit so if your a broke bitch it would be easier and cheaper to do it with a carb. so i guess you aint teaching nobody shit. your just talking shit out your ass.
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if someone bought an aftermarket system why would they need to pay someone to tune it when it would come with the software. at most u pay for dyno time if u decided to use a dyno. yea i agree a digital 7 box is the shit. but lets read back i'm pretty sure i typed electronic fuel injection system....pretty sure that means fuel control not ignition control. if i was to run a system it would do both. sorry but your carburator isn't ganna compensate if someone has an intake manifold that is flowin more air to some cylinders than others....and yup ur right i ain't teachin anybody shit. how can i teach someone something that they don't care to understand........and why would u write something back so ignorant when all i stated is efi systems are fucken sweet.
 
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1bad Lad said:
if someone bought an aftermarket system why would they need to pay someone to tune it when it would come with the software. at most u pay for dyno time if u decided to use a dyno. yea i agree a digital 7 box is the shit. but lets read back i'm pretty sure i typed electronic fuel injection system....pretty sure that means fuel control not ignition control. if i was to run a system it would do both. sorry but your carburator isn't ganna compensate if someone has an intake manifold that is flowin more air to some cylinders than others....and yup ur right i ain't teachin anybody shit. how can i teach someone something that they don't care to understand........and why would u write something back so ignorant when all i stated is efi systems are fucken sweet.
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I dont think efi system are very sweet. However I do think stand alone systems are pretty cool.....they seem like a good idea for efi guys.
 
1bad Lad said:
if someone bought an aftermarket system why would they need to pay someone to tune it when it would come with the software. at most u pay for dyno time if u decided to use a dyno. yea i agree a digital 7 box is the shit. but lets read back i'm pretty sure i typed electronic fuel injection system....pretty sure that means fuel control not ignition control. if i was to run a system it would do both. sorry but your carburator isn't ganna compensate if someone has an intake manifold that is flowin more air to some cylinders than others....and yup ur right i ain't teachin anybody shit. how can i teach someone something that they don't care to understand........and why would u write something back so ignorant when all i stated is efi systems are fucken sweet.
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why are the fastest nitrous cars in the world carburated? to think of it i cant think of anybody going fast with fuel injection and nitrous to be honest. fuel injection is sweet with turbos and blowers. but its big money for all the fuel injection shit. and its not as easy as you think to tune a car with a computer. just cause you got the software dont mean your a tuner.
 
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camaromann said:
Alright cool. That box is going to automatically take however much timing out i want (within its capabilities) whenever the nitrous is activated?
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it has 1 retard on it that can take 9.9 deg of timing out. so if your spraying what you say your gonna it will be enough for you. you wire 1 wire to your solenoids so when they get power it will pull timing out instantly.
 
camaromann said:
I dont think efi system are very sweet. However I do think stand alone systems are pretty cool.....they seem like a good idea for efi guys.
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have u ever used, operated or even completely understand an engine control system? if not then how can anyone have an opinion on it if they don't understand what they are judging?????
 
1bad Lad said:
have u ever used, operated or even completely understand an engine control system? if not then how can anyone have an opinion on it if they don't understand what they are judging?????
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im going by facts. show me a fast car with fuel injection on nitrous and ill show you a faster one with carb and nitrous.
 
johnquick302 said:
it has 1 retard on it that can take 9.9 deg of timing out. so if your spraying what you say your gonna it will be enough for you. you wire 1 wire to your solenoids so when they get power it will pull timing out instantly.
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Cool. Im sure it has instructions and diagrams with it. You have any advice for getting a leaf spring car to hook on that much bottle. Or do you know of anyone good to talk to?
 
camaromann said:
Cool. Im sure it has instructions and diagrams with it. You have any advice for getting a leaf spring car to hook on that much bottle. Or do you know of anyone good to talk to?
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call rich at pro racecraft eng, 313-525-0666 one of the best suspension guys around.
 
1bad Lad said:
have u ever used, operated or even completely understand an engine control system? if not then how can anyone have an opinion on it if they don't understand what they are judging?????
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I have used one briefly. And unfortunately most of my friends use them. I help them with it a lot. They are a pain in the ass to me. Im always telling them that if their motors had a carb. their shit would be tuned cheaper, easier, and faster then with efi. They get mad whenever they want to change something and find out they need $500 more in software.
 
johnquick302 said:
why are the fastest nitrous cars in the world carburated? to think of it i cant think of anybody going fast with fuel injection and nitrous to be honest. fuel injection is sweet with turbos and blowers. but its big money for all the fuel injection shit. and its not as easy as you think to tune a car with a computer. just cause you got the software dont mean your a tuner.
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have u ever heard of harold martin....he's right over in novi. pretty sure he's running 800 inch bigblocks with 4 dry kits with a custom electronic engine managment system. going 6.0 @ 230+mph. pretty sure that in the ballpark of the fastes in the world. man i got nothing against u...i'm just tryin to point out some facts here......i mean wouldn't u rather spend a lil more money on a system that can have way more control over an engine...i mean some people spend thousand of dallars on their engines. so when they are 5 engines deep because they can't get the intake right and their burning up pistons maybe the efi system that can add or subtract fuel per cyclinder isn't such a bad idea.....i agree that just because someone has software doesn't make them a tuner...i strongly agree with that....
 
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camaromann said:
I have used one briefly. And unfortunately most of my friends use them. I help them with it a lot. They are a pain in the ass to me. Im always telling them that if their motors had a carb. their shit would be tuned cheaper, easier, and faster then with efi. They get mad whenever they want to change something and find out they need $500 more in software.
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right on...well your right if somone doesn't know much about electronic systems then yea it can get confusing and can fuck shit up real quick. yea i know it does cost about 500 for a retune but assuming can do it by one self then a retune is nothing but cruisin around a lil bit......i like cruisin and i don't even have to pop the hood. i guess i like to drive more than work on the car... lol.....
 
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