Does anyone know this car that I got screwed on??

jameser

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I bought this car last month and basically everything I was told about the engine and rear end was a lie. The car is a 85 coupe with a 351w / C4 setup. The gut I bought it from (Scott) tells me I am shit out of luck and I signed an as is bill of sale. He gave me all the specs on the engine and drive train setup by word of mouth, and now says that's what he was told when he bought the engine that was supposedly built by Rays performance. He did put in the for sale ad CNC heads. He said he would give me the engine build sheet in the following week from when I bought it. He has acted like he sent it via fax but I never get it, I've told him to take phone pics of it and text me but he does not respond. I bought the car based on the engine build.

Here is what he claimed and I've found so far:

Said the heads were performer RPM that had been fully cnc ported and setup with 2.08 valves with roller cam springs-- Actually are just bone stock RPM heads with flat tappet springs
Said the cam was a roller cam with retrofit roller lifters-- Has a hydraulic flat tappet cam
Said the Lower end was built with forged pistons, crank, and h beam rods-- Have not pulled the pan but the top of the piston matches a Kieth Black hyper piston
Said the car will pull strong to 7000rpm-- falls on its face around 5500
Said it had aftermarket axles with c clip eliminators-- has stock axles with no eliminators
Said Dave at team z helped set the pinion angle-- Had SSM uppers and lowers, but HPM lower relocation brackets which pushed the bottom of the axle 1/2 back giving it about -12 negative pinion angle
probably a lot more but all i can think of right now

After asking him if he wanted to help me out in any way to rectify any of this, he told me to stop contacting him or he will file a harassment report against me. Just want to post this out there so this Asshole does not screw anyone else. I will post pics of the car and engine shortly
 
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Lesson learned: never trust a seller. You're screwed IMO.

I know I am screwed, just want to get the word out there and hoping maybe the guy that sold it would help out a bit

Someone on the board sold it to you?

Not from the board, but talked like he was involved with grudge racing and the street scene. Figured someone here would know the car or the guy.
 
Sorry to hear. Hate to say that it's buyer beware but it's just getting that way because sellers are such BSr's anymore. Hope you get some resolution in the matter.
 
Scum like this get what's coming to them, I was with James when he bought this car, this guy sold on a line of BS even down to the point that someone from Lidio's shop was eager to buy the car if James backed out, almost like a pressure ploy. The lesson I learned from this is when seller gives me a buy as is sheet I am going to return with a letter stating that everything the seller has disclosed is 100% honest to what was advertised.
 
Ill trade your white car for mine . Well how about pete, myself and you go pay him a visit

I like the car, but now have to put several thousand into it to make it what was advertised. I like the pay him a visit idea, but that could turn out bad for everyone.

That's fucked up. I have a nice cobra if your interested....
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I am going to keep it, just wished I didn't have to replace the engine to make it what it was advertised as.




Post his contact info.

I have it but not sure that would be a good idea.
 
Why wouldn't that be a good idea. Let the Motown muscle members have the opportunity to see Scott number so they know not to deal with him. He falsely advertised so I say ..........PHUCK em.
 
*** Warning ***

jameser, I wouldn’t say or do anything else until I spoke
to an Attorney (who will not charge you for your first
short talk) about this.

If you can prove the car was misrepresented then perhaps
you may be able to sue him in Small Claims Court for fraud?

In any case, I wouldn’t say or do anything until I knew my
legal rights & options.
 
Small claims court. He probably will not show. If he lies on the stand its a felony. Make sure he knows that. You can also say you recorded him.
 
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