Boy Scouts?? NOPE!

mustangmike6996 said:
I still confused as to why the girls couldnt just join the Girl Scouts and do the same things as the Boy Scouts. That chart is essentially exactly that. Does the membership money/profits go to the same place for Girl and Boy Scouts?
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I think when you get down to it this whole thing is about money. Girl Scout cookies are a selling like a billion dollar a year and the boy scouts can't compete. So they are trying to expand by recruiting girls. I really don't think they are giving in to liberals as a primary purpose, it is just a side effect. They are just trying to stay financially viable.

-Geoff
 
When I was in Cub/Boy Scouts, we sold high dollar pop corn (which was pretty hard to sell). Not anywhere near the amount of Girl Scout cookies sold.
 
mustangmike6996 said:
I still confused as to why the girls couldnt just join the Girl Scouts and do the same things as the Boy Scouts. That chart is essentially exactly that. Does the membership money/profits go to the same place for Girl and Boy Scouts?
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No, they are completely separate organizations. Boy Scouts of America is doing this because Girl Scouts does not appeal to all girls. There are many who would rather do what the boys do, especially in the Cub Scout age range. We have had many little sisters of Cubs who participated in almost 100% of the things that their brother(s) have been doing (including the Pinewood Derby). Now they are just going to be able to get "credit" for the things that they're already doing. As for the Boy Scout ages (11-17) I don't think we're going to see a ton of participation. As stated, girls will need to form their own troops and it will be at the discretion of the chartered organization.
 
mustangmike6996 said:
When I was in Cub/Boy Scouts, we sold high dollar pop corn (which was pretty hard to sell). Not anywhere near the amount of Girl Scout cookies sold.
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I got hustled on that last year I thought I was buying some popping corn and got a half size back of already popped for like 15 bucks. The kid was out near dark pulling a wagon so I didn't put up a fuss and paid him especially since he was putting in a good effort.

As far as the scouts go I never was part of them as a kid so I just assumed that the boy and girl scouts did about the same thing with different uniforms.Id have more of a problem with it if they were now the gender neutral scouts. This sounds more like a reorganization.
 
mustangmike6996 said:
When I was in Cub/Boy Scouts, we sold high dollar pop corn (which was pretty hard to sell). Not anywhere near the amount of Girl Scout cookies sold.
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We sold fertilizer in spring, and wreaths/poinsettias for Xmas. Go figure.

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Eagle scout myself, my brother is a scoutmaster, nephew is 13 and very active.

Could care less about the change, girls can fart in their sleeping bags and set shit on fire in the woods as much as boys. Nobody is making this happen AFAIK (??) and the Girl Scouts org is pissed.

When I finished Scouts 25+ years ago, some of the pervert/molestation training was just starting. It's not the world we lived in as kids, plain and simple.

I don't think this undermines the core values and principles Scouting has always stood for.

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There's always a way to rationalize it. That's why it keeps happening. Oh it's just...whatever. I don't buy it. Been seeing it happen for 50 years and the results speak for themselves. My son was at the 100th anniversary of scouting Jamboree. Obama the A-hole was supposed to make an appearance like any decent American president would, but he skipped it to go on Jimmy Kimmel or some such nonsense. He showed what he thought of Boy Scouts. This is about ending Boy Scouts. This is another step.
 
Well, the Mormons are out! There goes almost 500,000 scouts or 20% of their members. What is the over under on how long the Boy Scouts Survive? 2020?

-Geoff
 
WhiteHawk said:
Well, the Mormons are out! There goes almost 500,000 scouts or 20% of their members. What is the over under on how long the Boy Scouts Survive? 2020?

-Geoff
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Your numbers are misleading. LDS already pulled 14-18 year olds at the same time BSA allowed gay leaders, but the events were "unrelated". That already took LDS involvement from 500-280k.
Time will tell if allowing girls will replace or surpass the loss.

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From when I was an Assistant Scout Master, the biggest problem we saw was lack of parental participation, couldn't even get the kids dropped off for meetings, a parent to chaperone for weekend camping, etc.




its not lack of kids wanting to join, its lack of parents that don't just want babysitters
 
dave89iroc said:
From when I was an Assistant Scout Master, the biggest problem we saw was lack of parental participation, couldn't even get the kids dropped off for meetings, a parent to chaperone for weekend camping, etc.




its not lack of kids wanting to join, its lack of parents that don't just want babysitters
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Would anyone in their right mind want to volunteer their free time to the ways kids are being brought up?
 
When my sons were young, they were in something called "AWANA" ( https://www.awana.org/ ).

I joined in their classes & activities every time & stayed with them the entire time.

Sadly, I was the only father that did.
 
4Gas$ said:
When my sons were young, they were in something called "AWANA" ( https://www.awana.org/ ).

I joined in their classes & activities every time & stayed with them the entire time.

Sadly, I was the only father that did.
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My kids were both in AWANA as well, but scouting is a different and was a great experience for my son and the guys in our troop. Most of the other scoutmasters and assistants were among the finest people I have met. I'd love to hear from Nick-0-lena, he is an eagle scout.
 
I volunteer CONSTANTLY at my step sons school. I use 6 vacation days a year to be the Watch Dog in the school all day. It’s FUCKING awesome. Any dad who hasn’t done it should be ashamed. Once or twice a year will change your outlook.
I help coach his soccer practices
If your not in their life..... just turn on the damn news to see how they will turn out!!!
 
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