Blackberry users not happy

Agreed. Touchscreen is so much cleaner than some stupid keyboard on your phone. But then again, touchscreen is not for everyone. Some people require buttons. ;)

Your absolutely right. Touch screen phones look sooooooo sleek and clean. Every time I'm at the cell phone store, I always pick up the touch screen phones and ohh and ahh over them. I contemplate about buying one of them...and then realize it dosent have an actual keyboard. I need a keyboard or else I cant type on it. I've tried a million times to get used to a touch screen keyboard, but I just cant do it.
 
Hrm, my employer is probably10,000 times the size of yours and we use, among other devices (naturally) iPhones.
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Same with a buddy of mine who had Palm's for years. Once he really sat down with my iPhone and tested it he was sold.

Web surfing on an iPhone is second to none. Email is great. It supports IM. Plus I love the built-in iPod - that's how I listen to podcasts in my car.

There is no other phone on the market that even comes close to iPhone in terms of total user functionality.

But but but .. It doesn't have keys.. No shit.. It's modern technology. Their touchscreens are lightyears ahead of anything Palm/BB has ever engineered.

Who is your employer? How many do you employ? How many of those have cell phones? What percentage of those phones are regular phones vs data plan phones? What percentage of those are Iphones? Do you employ more people than AT&T? We're the third largest enterprise software provider in the world. Microsoft > Oracle > Us. That being said, we have about 1/4th of our company on company provided cell phones. Out of those, about 1/2 of those are data plan phones (smart phones whatever you want to call them). Out of those 90% are Blackberries. We currently have 3478 Blackberries in the company from Verizon, ATT, Sprint, Rogers, and T-mobile. I've tested most every major data phone that's out right now. Ask anyone who is friends with me on Blackberry Messenger. I've switched Blackberries once a week for the last 2 months as I swapped out phones pretty much daily.

The Iphone is a toy. No matter how you want to make it sound, it is a toy. My gaming computer is a toy and it does work related things as well, so just becuase you can do work on it doesn't mean it's a business phone. Is it practical in a daily use? not relly. You can't really text while driving or do an assorted other things (multi task etc...). But for people daily who just want a phone that's got a "cool" aura and an application package chock full of ways to update your facebook/twitter/myspace etc, it's a great phone.

As far as the Iphone part of it. Meh. Wife has an itouch and it does it's job well. Then again, listening to MP3's isn't exactly part of a daily job function. I guarantee you I don't walk around the office with headphones on all day listening to my music. the new Zune HD is a far better MP3 player than the Ipod. Many people hold that opinion as well. THat's all based off of personal preferrence though.

The phone is a good toy phone for every day use. It has practical applications that can be used in a business environment, but it almost certainly will never be the standard of business phones unless they completely revamp the phone and re-release it. Corporate Executive America will not be looking for an app to update their facebook. And as such, till the phone is recognized as more than a toy it will not be treated as anything other than a toy. This is the crux it seems of what Iphone slappies don't like to hear. They think the phone is the end of all to the business world and it's not. sure, some companies will allow it and some may even recommend it, but that doesn't mean the phone is a business phone. As an analogy. Jennifer Aniston was known as Rachel from Friends. She wanted desperately to be something other than that, so she has tried and tried to land a job that doesn't portray her as a dumb blonde with nice tits. It didn't work. She's back to doing just that because she knows that's what she is and will be. No matter how bad she wants to be Angelina Jolie, she won't be that type of actor. The Storm is to the Iphone as the Iphone is to the Bold.

This all goes without the complications of international travel with an Iphone. Some European countries have fines and controlls over their cellular networks. They charge a hefty premium for Iphones used with corporate download plans. Last guy who hit one of those countries came home with a $3000 phone bill for the 2 weeks he was there.

It's a good phone for everyday use for sure, if you like touchscreen. Not sure where having touchscreen makes it technologically miraculous. Untilll voice to text emulators are perfect, a touchscreen only setup is going to have flaws. major ones depending on the use of the phone. My phones lack of a touch screen interface doesn't make it any less technological than your phones lack of a physical interface that doesn't require work arounds to use in certain day to day situations.
 
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Who is your employer? How many do you employ? How many of those have cell phones? What percentage of those phones are regular phones vs data plan phones? What percentage of those are Iphones? Do you employ more people than AT&T? We're the third largest enterprise software provider in the world. Microsoft > Oracle > Us. That being said, we have about 1/4th of our company on company provided cell phones. Out of those, about 1/2 of those are data plan phones (smart phones whatever you want to call them). Out of those 90% are Blackberries. We currently have 3478 Blackberries in the company from Verizon, ATT, Sprint, Rogers, and T-mobile. I've tested most every major data phone that's out right now. Ask anyone who is friends with me on Blackberry Messenger. I've switched Blackberries once a week for the last 2 months as I swapped out phones pretty much daily.
The Iphone is a toy. No matter how you want to make it sound, it is a toy. My gaming computer is a toy and it does work related things as well, so just becuase you can do work on it doesn't mean it's a business phone. Is it practical in a daily use? not relly. You can't really text while driving or do an assorted other things (multi task etc...). But for people daily who just want a phone that's got a "cool" aura and an application package chock full of ways to update your facebook/twitter/myspace etc, it's a great phone.
As far as the Iphone part of it. Meh. Wife has an itouch and it does it's job well. Then again, listening to MP3's isn't exactly part of a daily job function. I guarantee you I don't walk around the office with headphones on all day listening to my music. the new Zune HD is a far better MP3 player than the Ipod. Many people hold that opinion as well. THat's all based off of personal preferrence though.
The phone is a good toy phone for every day use. It has practical applications that can be used in a business environment, but it almost certainly will never be the standard of business phones unless they completely revamp the phone and re-release it. Corporate Executive America will not be looking for an app to update their facebook. And as such, till the phone is recognized as more than a toy it will not be treated as anything other than a toy. This is the crux it seems of what Iphone slappies don't like to hear. They think the phone is the end of all to the business world and it's not. sure, some companies will allow it and some may even recommend it, but that doesn't mean the phone is a business phone. As an analogy. Jennifer Aniston was known as Rachel from Friends. She wanted desperately to be something other than that, so she has tried and tried to land a job that doesn't portray her as a dumb blonde with nice tits. It didn't work. She's back to doing just that because she knows that's what she is and will be. No matter how bad she wants to be Angelina Jolie, she won't be that type of actor. The Storm is to the Iphone as the Iphone is to the Bold.
This all goes without the complications of international travel with an Iphone. Some European countries have fines and controlls over their cellular networks. They charge a hefty premium for Iphones used with corporate download plans. Last guy who hit one of those countries came home with a $3000 phone bill for the 2 weeks he was there.
It's a good phone for everyday use for sure, if you like touchscreen. Not sure where having touchscreen makes it technologically miraculous. Untilll voice to text emulators are perfect, a touchscreen only setup is going to have flaws. major ones depending on the use of the phone. My phones lack of a touch screen interface doesn't make it any less technological than your phones lack of a physical interface that doesn't require work arounds to use in certain day to day situations.

Well then. That about sums it up. huh?
 
Is it practical in a daily use? not relly. You can't really text while driving or do an assorted other things (multi task etc...).

They have voice apps that type for you. And anyone typing texts while driving needs a good punch to the face anyway.
 
They have voice apps that type for you. And anyone typing texts while driving needs a good punch to the face anyway.

I said that till Voice to Text applications get "perfect" (I understand it can'be absolutely perfect, but better than current standards), it's impractical.
 
Lots of bitterness from the crapberry crowd as usual. lol


Already covered this as well. The Iphone is a good every day use phone. You tell an Iphone slappie that their phone isn't the best business phone and instantly Blackberry users are bitter.
 
The only thing that makes a Blackberry a 'better' business phone is the fact that you can control phone policies and everything with BES.
 
Already covered this as well. The Iphone is a good every day use phone. You tell an Iphone slappie that their phone isn't the best business phone and instantly Blackberry users are bitter.
I would never consider a phone my boss calls me on "best" even if it could perform fellatio. I would off my bizz crackberry in a ny minute given the option.
 
Which is why I separate the Iphone into personal use and the Blackberry into work use. I don't see why people want a Blackberry for personal use unless it's some sort of status symbol. As long as I can have a calendar to sync up with, I don't care what phone I have for daily use. Granted if I liked touchscreen I would probably go with the Iphone or a Droid, but I don't need that since my work phone is also my personal one.
 
The only thing that makes a Blackberry a 'better' business phone is the fact that you can control phone policies and everything with BES.

This is an extremely valid point. If Apple were to release their own version of the BES it likely would be more used in businesses than a blackberry.
 
This is an extremely valid point. If Apple were to release their own version of the BES it likely would be more used in businesses than a blackberry.

Does the new Windows Mobile have any kind of integration?

Password policies etc are the main reason corporate made us switch to BB's when they acquired us. I didn't mind because the phones crashed a lot and were real laggy.
 
I don't know how Mobile 7 will work yet. The old os though had no real security measures that could be setup via the domain etc...
 
i have a BB storm, it's ok, but as soon as IPHONE comes to verizon I will be an Iphone user. I just dont like ATT's service and I have had no complaints with verizon for over 7 years now.
 
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