Anyone on here have an MBA from Univ of Mich-AA
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Scooter70
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There was a guy in my MPD (Masters in Product Develpment) class who got his MBA at U of M.
Ever see the FedEx commercial where the "new guy" in the office has to ship a bunch of packages so the lady starts explaining how to use fedex.com?
New guy: "I know how to do it... I have an MBA."
Lady: "Oh... you have an MBA? Then I'm going to have to show you this step by step."
Sorry... An MBA isn't what it used to be.
Ever see the FedEx commercial where the "new guy" in the office has to ship a bunch of packages so the lady starts explaining how to use fedex.com?
New guy: "I know how to do it... I have an MBA."
Lady: "Oh... you have an MBA? Then I'm going to have to show you this step by step."
Sorry... An MBA isn't what it used to be.
LTLHOMER
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You're right I think I'm going about this all wrong...I should probably be making my educational decisions based off of fedex commercials...Scooter70 said:
What was the guy's undergrad? I have been reading up and engineers with mba's can go a LONG way and make huge $$$ which is pretty much my only goal...:icon_mrgr I want to be a millionaire by age 35.
LTLHOMER
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I'm sure an MBA would help me whether it was with my own company or someone else's...35 isn't too much of a stretch if you keep advancing positions every 3-4 years or so and make good financial decisions. I have zero debt and a pretty good starting job next step will be moving up through the engineer ranks while I get my MBA and then it will be on to the brass. I'm only 21 now and graduate this fall.L98Terror said:
Scooter70
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LTLHOMER said:
BSME... Same as yours. :finger: Now he has 2 Masters degrees and still works for the Man at Ford. Ken has it right. If you want to be rich, don't work for anybody but yourself. Be an entrepreneur, not an engineer. Engineering doesn't pay shit, especially when you work for someone else.
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I want to stay away from being an engineer my whole life, that's the point of getting the MBA. Gets rid of the ceiling that engineers usually run into once they get a little ways into the 6 figures.Scooter70 said:
He must be doing something wrong if he still has the same job and the same pay after getting additional degrees...degrees themselves don't insure success but I believe they are some of the tools that allow one to achieve success. Nothing will replace good 'ol hard work, but I am not lacking in that at all so I want to take care of the other portion.
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I am not either...and I have talked with others and this is why I do not want to get stuck in the same boat that a lot of others have gotten stuck in by choice or by circumstance...some people can be happy working at burger king doing the same thing for a long time not making millions, but I'm not one of those people.Scooter70 said:
Maybe with your 10 years experience you can help lead me on a more ideal path towards riches...and I will give you a cut!
95 Z/28 LT1
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Sorry, but this is just straight bull shit. Engineers can make a lot of money depending on where you work and for how long.
Six figure income can easily be had about 5-6 years out of college if you're motivated and like to work, even more so if you become a P.E.
Six figure income can easily be had about 5-6 years out of college if you're motivated and like to work, even more so if you become a P.E.
Scooter70 said:
LTLHOMER
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Yeh I plan on doing my FE tests when I graduate (I think they only give them twice a year) and then after the two years I will go for my P.E. as well...I think earnings in any profession are far more often limited by the employees own work ethic rather than lack of oppurtunity. Not to say anyone in this thread doesn't work hard, but in general I believe it holds some water.95 Z/28 LT1 said:
mdhmi
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L98Terror said:
Exactly
I do know some millionaire MBA's.. They all own their own companies.
If you have the opportunity to go and can work while you attend I say go for it. The next two or three years are going to go by whether or not you get an MBA. You might as well go for at and get it over and done with. You'll have it forever unlike some of the tech certs that have to be renewer every year or two.
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The difference between being an engineer without and MBA and being an engineer with an MBA is most often found in your title. You could one day be the Director of Engineering or you migh end up the President of the company. It's that simple.
Is the degree watered down simply by the number of work and go to school programs??? Perhaps a bit but they are still going to use it as bare mininum requirements when screen resumes at some places. So if you can get some one to pay for it, do it while your young, because it's going to suck when you have a family and pets later in life hahahaha.
Now the night program at U of M was pretty solid back in the late 80s when I used to tutor and proctor exams for the accounting classes. At that point it was tailored for working executives from the big buisness in the area that had "stars" that couldn't leave the office to get the degree. It's been expanded along with the expansions at Dearborn and Flint these days because of the competitive nature of getting and MBA. They typically use long classes with less vists during the week and allow some classes to be picked up at Dearborn or Flint sometimes.
Ohh by the way, I still have a key to the B-school if you need one, but I'm sure the locks to Danos's and Patton's offices have been changed since the last visit.
Rick
Is the degree watered down simply by the number of work and go to school programs??? Perhaps a bit but they are still going to use it as bare mininum requirements when screen resumes at some places. So if you can get some one to pay for it, do it while your young, because it's going to suck when you have a family and pets later in life hahahaha.
Now the night program at U of M was pretty solid back in the late 80s when I used to tutor and proctor exams for the accounting classes. At that point it was tailored for working executives from the big buisness in the area that had "stars" that couldn't leave the office to get the degree. It's been expanded along with the expansions at Dearborn and Flint these days because of the competitive nature of getting and MBA. They typically use long classes with less vists during the week and allow some classes to be picked up at Dearborn or Flint sometimes.
Ohh by the way, I still have a key to the B-school if you need one, but I'm sure the locks to Danos's and Patton's offices have been changed since the last visit.
Rick
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2001-WS6 said:The difference between being an engineer without and MBA and being an engineer with an MBA is most often found in your title. You could one day be the Director of Engineering or you migh end up the President of the company. It's that simple.
Is the degree watered down simply by the number of work and go to school programs??? Perhaps a bit but they are still going to use it as bare mininum requirements when screen resumes at some places. So if you can get some one to pay for it, do it while your young, because it's going to suck when you have a family and pets later in life hahahaha.
Now the night program at U of M was pretty solid back in the late 80s when I used to tutor and proctor exams for the accounting classes. At that point it was tailored for working executives from the big buisness in the area that had "stars" that couldn't leave the office to get the degree. It's been expanded along with the expansions at Dearborn and Flint these days because of the competitive nature of getting and MBA. They typically use long classes with less vists during the week and allow some classes to be picked up at Dearborn or Flint sometimes.
Ohh by the way, I still have a key to the B-school if you need one, but I'm sure the locks to Danos's and Patton's offices have been changed since the last visit.
Rick
Good information...I could sure use a figurative 'key' to the school if you have one or know how to obtain one? lol I'm applying for Fall 2007 and I think the application deadline is sometime in May 2007.
I am still working on the General Dynamics people (that's where I REALLY want to get my first engineering job at)...found one contact (friend's dad is a machinist or something there) and I'm going to start calling their staffing people this week and next now that my final semester has officially begun.
Not sure if they do their own hiring or if they have a staffing agency...I just got phone numbers off their website.
Yes, they do most of their own highering work there. It's easier to get through all of the security clearnce issues when they control it from beggining to end.
This doesn't apply most likely but it's best to remember for anyone that may be looking at a job that requires a government security clearance. There should be no recreational smoking for "glocoma" for a full 90 days before interviewing just in case you get fast tracked for a security clearance and a physical. They won't higher without a doctor's script if you're using "meds" for glocoma.
They've got some big development jobs still going over there. So they are hiring still. I'll pester the HR girls again to see who is handling the college grad recruiting these days.
Rick
This doesn't apply most likely but it's best to remember for anyone that may be looking at a job that requires a government security clearance. There should be no recreational smoking for "glocoma" for a full 90 days before interviewing just in case you get fast tracked for a security clearance and a physical. They won't higher without a doctor's script if you're using "meds" for glocoma.
They've got some big development jobs still going over there. So they are hiring still. I'll pester the HR girls again to see who is handling the college grad recruiting these days.
Rick
L98Terror
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Scooter70 said:
Being a Millionaire isn't what it used to be, a MBA from the right school will set you in the right direction but keep in mind it's not an end all good financial decisions are key modding your car is a step in the wrong direction.
Here is some food for thought
http://www.forbes.com/2000/06/29/feat.html