Airgunning

Tin

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Now that Snyder has signed the bill reclassifying airguns, we will be legally allowed to shoot them in our yards. Before the bill was signed, airguns were classified as firearms by the state due to heavy lobbying on behalf of Daisy, who wanted to monopolize the market with their BB guns at one time. Now you'll be able to sling lead in the yard legally, as long as it stays on your property.

Airguns make fine pesting tools. Most are quiet enough that the neighbors won't hear a thing. To them, it wouldn't be any louder than a pneumatic nailer, most times even quieter than that. Rats, squirrels, sparrows, starlings, or raccoons? We all have had trouble with them at one time or another, or will have trouble with them in the future. Chuck a little lead their way and show em who's boss. Way cheaper than calling an exterminator, and a hell of a lot more fun, too :D.

Now that you are aware of our newly signed law, you need a tool to do the job. The first rule of thumb for buying a new air rifle. If you are shopping a break-barrel that uses a spring piston or gas piston, repeat after me, "I will not buy a Crosman or Gamo rifle because they're Chinese junk with poor triggers, poorly machined parts, improperly lubricated, and crap quality control." There's a reason they're the $100 Walmart special. What you will get is an inaccurate rifle with a clangy twangy powerplant and a heavy single-stage trigger that will frustrate the shit out of you. Those junk rifles advertise high FPS (usually around 1200FPS), nothing but a marketing ploy to put a piece of junk in the hands of the unknowing. For starters, the numbers they get are from using light weight alloy pellets. A pellet breaking the sound barrier becomes woefully inaccurate, since they end up tumbling down range instead of spinning. The sweet spot is between 600 and 900FPS. If your airgun hits that mark, you have a fine hunting/pesting machine providing your rifle is of suitable caliber.

There are far better rifles that cost not much more than your Walmart Crosman/Gamo junk. Your best bet for something good and cheap (yes, that does exist with some airguns) is to pay a visit to Flying Dragon Air Rifles and grab one of their offerings. You see, Flying Dragon rifles have lifetime warranties, great triggers, and superb accuracy. It's well worth the money to pay for a tuned rifle, as they use the proper lubricants, deburr, recrown, and rework the trigger so it performs more like a match rifle. Smooth shooting, smooth cocking, and very accurate. The other good brands out there are the German, British, and Turkish guns, such as Weihrauch, Beeman (specifically the R7, R9, and R1), Air Arms, Webley, BSA, Feinwerkbau, RWS Diana, and Hatsan.

Now we need to choose the proper caliber. The common train of thought is .22 for fur, and .177 for feathers. My preference is .22 for both, because I prefer the impact of the larger caliber. Some rifles are offered in a .25 caliber, but they have an overly arching trajectory for my tastes, but they have a lot of smack to them. A .22 is a nice medium for power and trajectory. Whatever you choose, make sure it's not too heavy, nor too light for your rifle. A low powered gun like a Beeman R7 or HW30 in .177 won't need a pellet more than 7gr or so, whereas a R1 Supermagnum or HW80 will be better with a 10gr pellet. If you got those guns in .22, you'd be about 12gr to 14gr for the R7, and 18gr for the R1 Supermag. Bigger calibers carry more energy down range, which is another reason I like the .22 better than the .177. A .25 will carry even more energy, but you'll have to compensate for the loopy trajectory.

Airgunning is fun stuff, and much cheaper to shoot than powder burners. I get tins of my favorite pellet for $15 for 500 rounds, and many are even cheaper than that. Set up a trap in your yard and have at it, it'll keep your skills fresh :D
 
A lot of talk about Chinese Junk on their site...

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A lot of talk about Chinese Junk on their site...

The guns Mike sells are modeled after the German Diana 34 (XS25) and Diana 350 Magnum (XS28M), the parts are interchangeable. His guns are nothing but workhorses, he's a sponsor on all of the big airgun forums, hell of a reputation for great quality stuff and outstanding service. Every factory stock gun he sells is inspected by him for workmanship and manufacturing defects, and basic and fully tuned guns are gone over with a fine-toothed comb. The Crosman and Gamo guns are all variants of the B18 air rifle, nothing like the XS12, XS25, and XS28...they're garbage.
 
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So there's "cheap Chinese" and "post-inspected Chinese".

I have a Remington .177 that I've been impressed with. I bought it to shoot cans and maybe piss off a woodchuck enough to convince him to find a new home.
 
I have a few airpistols laying around a smith and weson Built 22 and a old crossman made in the USA semi auto if anybody needs a close quarters chipmunk killer
 
So there's "cheap Chinese" and "post-inspected Chinese".

I have a Remington .177 that I've been impressed with. I bought it to shoot cans and maybe piss off a woodchuck enough to convince him to find a new home.

Yep. The cheap Chinese can be made good though, they just need a new trigger, new piston seal, new barrel pivot washers, new breech seal, internals deburred, honed compression tube, and to be lubed with Honda 60 moly paste. Once all that is done, they are outstanding, but take a lot of work. If you like to work on your own airguns, it's a completely viable way to have a nice shooter, and they do make a nice canvas of sorts. I was going to cobble up my own Crosman with a nitro piston, shrouded barrel, GRT-III trigger, Tarantula mainspring, and Apex piston seal, but I traded my "canvas" for a shotgun a few months back.

EDIT: Check this site out, this guy makes drop in replacement triggers for most of the B18 and B19 guns like the Crosman, Remington, Gamo, and Benjamin break-barrels. I had one on my old Crosman, it's outstanding. Nice 2-stage trigger with a very light pull. http://charliedatuna.com/index.html
 
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been interested in a pest removal tool , this makes it better .............. anyone got something decent for sale ? , rifle with a scope preferred
 
Will a .22 air rifle take out a woodchuck? Got one that is living in the drain pipe under the driveway and could probably take it out with my air rifle from the upper story window.
 
Will a .22 air rifle take out a woodchuck? Got one that is living in the drain pipe under the driveway and could probably take it out with my air rifle from the upper story window.

Sure, how far are you shooting? Something like a Hatsan 95 or RWS 34 will be great. If you're going long distance, look at a magnum like a RWS 350 or XS28M.
 
That is great news!! I need a piston for my nitro venom dusk.........

my old school marksman 1790 still shoots great and goes through an ENTIRE hotrod magazine... :) I just figured out how to load BB's into it... never knew it shot both!
 
That is great news!! I need a piston for my nitro venom dusk.........

my old school marksman 1790 still shoots great and goes through an ENTIRE hotrod magazine... :) I just figured out how to load BB's into it... never knew it shot both!

The Nitro Venom will be awesome, grab a GRT-III trigger, too. It's very well worth it, had one on an Optimus I had not long ago. That trigger is a drop-in replacement, very easy to do.
 
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This is the one I want. Benjamin Marauder in .25. It's a pre-charged gun, you fill it up with a scuba tank. Has an 8 round mag, about 32 shots per fill.

 
Sure, how far are you shooting? Something like a Hatsan 95 or RWS 34 will be great. If you're going long distance, look at a magnum like a RWS 350 or XS28M.

Not shooting far at all, probably 30 yards at the most. I actually already have an air rifle that my Dad gave me, its a Benjaman break barrel, model BT1122WNP. Is this air rifle a decent gun or not? I know my dad took out a many a chipmunk with it.
 
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