After patiently waiting... IT ARRIVED! ZL1 inside!!

The magazine claims 12.1 @ 119 mph with a rolling start... rolling start?!?! The hardest thing to do with it is to get it to leave on stock tires from a dead stop.

I went to the track yesterday and the best I got it to run 100% bone stock with 110 miles on it was 12.41 @ 115.9 mph. I was leaving from idle and my 60' was horrible and I couldn't stand on it until it was already in 2nd gear. I could see much better times on a tire!

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That seems to be about what they've been running on average.

I actually quite like the white on that car.
 
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Very nice, execpt the non-functioning ram air hood is a let down.
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Ram Air? It has a heat extractor that is very functional. It even has some ducting attached to the hood to draw the air coming from the radiator out of the engine compartment through the heat extractor vents in the hood, or at least the development cars did, it looked like something that was going into production.
 
I think when a magazine says rolling start they mean they did it as it is at the drag strip with roll out and what not as opposed to just using their equipment on 1/4 mile of bare pavement somewhere, I could be wrong though.
 
4 cam tbird said:
I think when a magazine says rolling start they mean they did it as it is at the drag strip with roll out and what not as opposed to just using their equipment on 1/4 mile of bare pavement somewhere, I could be wrong though.
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Yes, I think you are right on this. Roll out is a variable (deep or shallow stage) and a time advantage.
 
4 cam tbird said:
Ram Air? It has a heat extractor that is very functional. It even has some ducting attached to the hood to draw the air coming from the radiator out of the engine compartment through the heat extractor vents in the hood, or at least the development cars did, it looked like something that was going into production.
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I was looking at the pic wrong. At first it looked like mesh inserts in a intake but I see its more like louvers to get het off the IC...
 
That vehicle never fails to look ugly. No reflection on Livernois, just that that car looks like ass.
 
Yes. It should also have 3 pedals and two wheel drive, however, that isn't the topic of discussion here.
 
I think it is very relevant to the invalid comment you made. The last pro driver that lapped the Zl-1 around VIR said it was nearly effortless, as did the last driver of the GT-R who said it made him feel more confident than in the 911 PDK Turbo S (which weighed 500 lbs less). So here are 2 different cars that put down crazy lap times and carry their weight well with predictable handling and a very balanced chassis, and you say they need to lose weight. Why? Paper stats?

I have a corner balanced 620 hp Katech Z06, it tips the scales under 3100 lbs, and sits on goopy pilot sports. I would have to run 9/10ths at the least to outrun the GT-R or Zl-1 on a track, and those have less power and more weight. The overall package matters more than paper stats. You can have a car which weighs less, but has a higher center of gravity, or poor weight distribution front/back,(or any other quirky chassis/handling dynamic) and it will lose to an equally powered heavier car all day long.
 
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ConfusedGarage said:
I think it is very relevant to the invalid comment you made. The last pro driver that lapped the Zl-1 around VIR said it was nearly effortless, as did the last driver of the GT-R who said it made him feel more confident than in the 911 PDK Turbo S (which weighed 500 lbs less). So here are 2 different cars that put down crazy lap times and carry their weight well with predictable handling and a vary balanced chassis, and you say they need to lose weight. Why? Paper stats?

I have a corner balanced 620 hp Katech Z06, it tips the scales under 3100 lbs, and sits on goopy pilot sports. I would have to run 9/10ths at the least to outrun the GT-R or Zl-1 on a track, and those have less power and more weight. The overall package matters more than paper stats. You can have a car which weighs less, but has a higher center of gravity, or poor weight distribution front/back,(or any other quirky chassis/handling dynamic) and it will lose to an equally powered heavier car all day long.
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Well said!
 
ConfusedGarage said:
I think it is very relevant to the invalid comment you made. The last pro driver that lapped the Zl-1 around VIR said it was nearly effortless, as did the last driver of the GT-R who said it made him feel more confident than in the 911 PDK Turbo S (which weighed 500 lbs less). So here are 2 different cars that put down crazy lap times and carry their weight well with predictable handling and a very balanced chassis, and you say they need to lose weight. Why? Paper stats?

I have a corner balanced 620 hp Katech Z06, it tips the scales under 3100 lbs, and sits on goopy pilot sports. I would have to run 9/10ths at the least to outrun the GT-R or Zl-1 on a track, and those have less power and more weight. The overall package matters more than paper stats. You can have a car which weighs less, but has a higher center of gravity, or poor weight distribution front/back,(or any other quirky chassis/handling dynamic) and it will lose to an equally powered heavier car all day long.
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The comment I made was very valid. Imagine how it would perform with less weight. There is really no arguing that it would be better. Faster acceleration, better braking, cornering, fuel economy, etc.

Of course the Camaro and GTR feel more surefooted than a 911 - the damn engine is behind the rear axle. :lol: If they ever started moving it inwards, other manufacturers should start to worry. :lol:

I don't like fat cars that are supposed to be sports cars. It can be as balanced as you can make it, but the weight will still show itself in some form or another.

And no, I don't care what time the GTR puts down at the track. It's an automatic, and I don't like driving them. Horsepower and lap times don't mean everything.
 
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