a street friendly cage?

DarkoStoj

A mysterious figure named Darko
I'd like to be able to take my 67 camaro to the strip when its done but i'll most likely be under 11.50's in the quarter and tech requires a cage at those speeds. I have basically a protouring type street car and was wondering if a cage would pass tech if it had removable side door bars and a removable back brace thats right behind the front seats. I really don't want a cage at all...but then i'd really like to be able to play at the track. I've never been there so I don't know whats really required for a cage to pass tech.
 
Swingout (and removeable) door bars will pass tech, but the rear cross bar HAS to be welded to the main hoop.

--Joe
 
Swingout (and removeable) door bars will pass tech, but the rear cross bar HAS to be welded to the main hoop.

--Joe
damnit, looks like I won't be going to the strip. I'd do one if I could have a removable cross bar.
 
well how about this, can the crossbar be welded in lower and not mounted in the standard location that it always is in?
 
Copied from IHRA rulebook.........

General roll bar specs

ROLL BARS: All roll bars must be within 6” of the rear, or side, of the driver’s head,
extend in height at least 3” above the driver’s helmet with the driver in normal driving
position, and at least as wide as the driver’s shoulders or within 1” of the driver’s door.
Must be adequately supported or cross-braced to prevent forward or lateral collapse.
Braces must be of the same diameter and wall thickness as the roll bar and intersect
with the roll bar at a point not more than 5” from the top of the roll bar. Side-bar must
be included on driver’s side. The side bar must pass the driver at a point midway
between the shoulder and elbow.
All vehicles with OEM frame must have roll bar welded to frame; installation of frame
connectors on unibody cars does not constitute a frame and, therefore, it is not
necessary to have the roll bar welded to the frame. Cars without frame must securely
attach roll bar with 6” x 6” x .125 steel plates on top and bottom of floor bolted together
with at least four 3/8” bolts and nuts. If roll bar is welded to the rocker sill area with
.125” reinforcing plates, the 4 attachment bolts are not mandatory. All chrome moly
welding must be done by approved TIG Heliarc process; mild steel welding may be done
by MIG (wire feed) or TIG process.Welding must be free of sag and porosity. Any grinding
of welds prohibited. See following illustration. Roll bar must be padded any where
driver’s helmet may contact it while in driving position. Adequate padding must have minimum 1/4” compression.

ROLL CAGE: All cage structures must be designed in an attempt to protect the driver
from any angle, 360-degrees; cars with out inspection above driver’s legs must have a
shield or device to prevent legs from protruding outside chassis. When driver is in driving
position in an open bodied car, roll cage must be at least 3” in front of helmet. On front
engine dragster, seat uprights and back braces must be arranged such that a flat
surface passed over any two adjacent members will not contact the driver seat or
containment. Additional uprights, max 30 degrees from vertical, must be added until this
criteria is satisfied.
On full bodied car, with driver in driving position, helmet must be in front of main hoop.
Side bar must pass the driver at a point midway between the shoulder and elbow. All
cage structures must have in their construction a cross bar for seat bracing and as the
shoulder harness attachment point; cross bar must be installed no more than 4” below,
and not above, the driver’s shoulders or to side brace. On any car where the stock
flooring has been removed, the roll cage must incorporate a rocker or sill bar to tie the
front and rear of the roll cage together. Minimum specifications: 1-5/8”OD-.083cm, or
1-5/8”OD.118ms or 2”x2”x.058 box tubing. Mild steel welding may be done by MIG or
TIG process. All chromoly must employ only TIG process. Welding must be free of slag
and porosity. Any grinding of welds prohibited. See FRAMES for chassis certification
procedures. See following illustrations, Roll cage. Additionally, roll cage must be padded
any where the driver’s helmet may contact it while in the driving position.
Swing out bars are permitted on OEM full bodied entries running 8.50 and slower. They must
be designed as follows: 1 5/8 diameter x .083 cm or .118 ms connected with a minimum
of 3/8 bolts or pins affixed in double shear. Clevis or sliding sleeve connections permitted.
All male brackets must be a minimum of 1/8 inch with corresponding female bracket being
1/4 inch. Sliding sleeves must have a minimum of 2 inch engagement at the connection.
Chrome plating of roll cage prohibited on all entries running 7.50 or quicker 1/4 mile, or
on entries that want a certification that is within that respective SFI specs E.T. range. A
dash bar and rocker sill bar are mandatory on all entries running 150 mph or quicker or
if the OEM firewall has been modified in excess of 1 square foot for transmission
removal. Minimum specifications: 1-1/4” x .058cm, or 1-1/4” x .118ms.
Head guards or helmet bars must be installed on all entries presented for certification
under SFI specifications 2.2B, 2.3K, 2.4, 2.5A, 2.6, 2.7A, and 10.1E. The minimum
specification is 1 inch X .058 cm. See appropriate SFI specification for all full bodied entries
8.49 or quicker 1/4 mile. Chassis certifications are mandatory on all entries running 9.00
or quicker 1/4 mile, or 6.00 or quicker 1/8 mile or on any vehicle that exceeds 150 mph.


What you have to keep in mind is that what is going to govern the height of the bar is where your seat and harness mounts are.

Good luck.

--Joe
 

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have it removeable and cover it with padding to make it look fixied :secret:
i was thinking that too, but I really don't want a cage in the car at all...and if I put one in I don't want to have to cross my fingers it would pass tech everytime i go
 
How fast do you think its gonna be, honestly? If you think it will go 11.0's and you only plan on going the motown rentals, I would just see how long they would let you go without one.
 
How fast do you think its gonna be, honestly? If you think it will go 11.0's and you only plan on going the motown rentals, I would just see how long they would let you go without one.
well I dont know exactly how fast its gonna be but I will have enough power to get me into the low low 10's
 
ive been 9s plenty of times with no cages or bar in the car. if your going every week get one, if not push your luck till you get warned or kicked out. tint the windows dark so they cant see in, and dont drive like an asshole to get attention brought to you.
 
Windshield, Windows
Mandatory, as produced by OEM manufacturer only. Must be in good condition and free of cracks. Windshield/window tint must meet the applicable state requirements. Windows must be closed during races; need not be operable. Decals permitted on rear quarter and rear window only. Competition-number decals are permitted on any window or windshield.
 
Windshield, Windows
Mandatory, as produced by OEM manufacturer only. Must be in good condition and free of cracks. Windshield/window tint must meet the applicable state requirements. Windows must be closed during races; need not be operable. Decals permitted on rear quarter and rear window only. Competition-number decals are permitted on any window or windshield.

have you ever heard of anybody getting kicked out from tinted windows?
 
ive been 9s plenty of times with no cages or bar in the car. if your going every week get one, if not push your luck till you get warned or kicked out. tint the windows dark so they cant see in, and dont drive like an asshole to get attention brought to you.

This is exactly what I've always done. Granted my cars have only been bottom 11 second cars, but with dark windows and only going every other week or so, I'd get warned every once in a while, but I've always been able to run.
When they ask what it runs, do what I do and give the :dunno: I would usually tell them "hopefully 13's"
 
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