220 service

Tubes92

Tubes92

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I want to run 220 to my garage and I was wondering if anyone knew if dte would come run 220 straight to the Garage the power lines are rigth behind my garage

Thanks in advanced!
 
You want a separate meter on your garage from house?
They will drop a line from pole to garage, but you have to do everything past meter I believe.
Or you can run a line from the house to the garage, keep it on same bill/meter.
 
Edison will do a separate drop and meter, but you will pay commercial rate for it, and depending on your local ordinances they may contact the city you live in.... I assume you were going to pull permits for the wiring? They may not allow it in that configuration and ask a million question as to why you need 220 (running a business from the garage or installing commercial equipment?)
You may be better off moving your drop location & meter to the garage, then feeding the house from the garage. Have a electrician come to your location & quote you for the entire job.
 
I fought with DTE over this when I wanted power to my barn. They kept wanting me to piggyback the mains on my 200 amp main panel in the house. Not what I had in mind. Long story short, I finally asked for an application for new service. I went around work reading the data tags for the 3 Hp Bridgeport, the nice Hardinge lathe, the small Haas turning center, Lincoln TIG, 8 Hp 2-stage compressor, 2 post hoist, etc. If I ever though "that would be cool to have", I put it on the list. I put all that "fantasy island" stuff on the app, and turned it back in. After they came off the ceiling, they told me I was not zoned commercial. Itold them I am "an automotive hobbyist" and that all that stuff was for my hobby of building, re-building, and modifying MY car. Key to the whole deal = MY car. Not friends cars, not cars you fix up and sell. MY car. They will charge you for commercial service, but it's worth it.
 
OldbutNew said:
I fought with DTE over this when I wanted power to my barn. They kept wanting me to piggyback the mains on my 200 amp main panel in the house. Not what I had in mind. Long story short, I finally asked for an application for new service. I went around work reading the data tags for the 3 Hp Bridgeport, the nice Hardinge lathe, the small Haas turning center, Lincoln TIG, 8 Hp 2-stage compressor, 2 post hoist, etc. If I ever though "that would be cool to have", I put it on the list. I put all that "fantasy island" stuff on the app, and turned it back in. After they came off the ceiling, they told me I was not zoned commercial. Itold them I am "an automotive hobbyist" and that all that stuff was for my hobby of building, re-building, and modifying MY car. Key to the whole deal = MY car. Not friends cars, not cars you fix up and sell. MY car. They will charge you for commercial service, but it's worth it.
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how bad is the damage?
feel free to pm me, looking to go this route possibly in the spring time
 
It's a whole lot easier to put a main breaker in your existing panel in the house and run a line from that out to the garage and have a sub panel out there. Mine is that way and has never caused any kind of problem.
 
Thats what I just did in my barn. I have 100amp service in the barn and 200 in the house. I know about ten others who did the exact same thing and have never had issues. Just depends what you are running and equipment wise what kind of power service you need.

By the way I inquired about getting an additional service to my barn. They wanted $9 a foot to put the wire in and that was me digging the trench. Then they wanted the meter for the house and the meter for the barn side by side or they would charge me an extra $40 a month for a service fee. I didn't even inquire as to what the power charge would be. I ran the entire thing from my house panel and put in everything including a new 100 amp subpanel for $350.

I have DTE power service
 
TWOBEERS said:
It's a whole lot easier to put a main breaker in your existing panel in the house and run a line from that out to the garage and have a sub panel out there. Mine is that way and has never caused any kind of problem.
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x2. I did all the legwork and my buddy completed the final connections. Works just fime for what I'm doing.
 
Edison wont come do the meters or drop lines unless you have and inspection so pull your permits.
I ran 200 amp to the house new box, put a 100 in the garage and had Edison come out and install the new meter and 200 amp drop lines at no cost.
No commercial rates either
 
I tried to get a garage drop but DTE just flat out wouldn't do it. I ended up putting a 60 amp box in the garage run back to my house. I have a box with about 12 cutouts in it and have two 220 circuits already. I dug the trench then paid an electrician to do the rest. It wasn't cheap but he took care of the permits and everything else. The city inspector knew the guy so the inspection took about 30 seconds because he trusted the work.

-Geoff
 
For me it was more about NOT having a main panel that I could piggyback from, and not having a good direct route between the house and the barn without cutting 30 feet of concrete and trenching 150 feet.
Yes, you have to have a lot of crap running to draw that much. I have been in the barn with all the lights going, while my buddy was welding, I had the hoist going up, and the compressor kicked on. That would sure dim the house lights. At the time I built the barn, I really was looking to add a Bridgeport, lathe, etc. I didn't want to get down that road and find out I couldn't power things up.
 
Hey what the hell you waiting for?? You get the bridgeport ill supply the stock, cold beer, and ideas for some cool ass stuff!!
 
mark468 said:
I have 110 in garage now, with its own panel. Could i hook up 220 to that ?
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Maybe, but we need more info. Can you take a picture of the sub panel with the cover off so we can see if it has 220v service? You need to be more specific of whats in the garage right now. The subpanel might have been run with just 110v service.

--Joe
 
Falcon64 said:
Hey what the hell you waiting for?? You get the bridgeport ill supply the stock, cold beer, and ideas for some cool ass stuff!!
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I made a little progress tonight in getting my buddy over to get to work on that dune buggy.
Once it is out... who knows!! I know I will have plenty of 240V powwer!
 
Livernoismotorsports said:
Edison wont come do the meters or drop lines unless you have and inspection so pull your permits.
I ran 200 amp to the house new box, put a 100 in the garage and had Edison come out and install the new meter and 200 amp drop lines at no cost.
No commercial rates either
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Commercial rates apply when they add another meter to a residential (excluding interruptible service options for ac/hot water tanks)
Edison only makes the drop from the pole, not the box and pole on the house/barn. The size of the wire determines the amperage capability. I would think 200amp single phase would be all they would drop, but if three phase is close by and you want to pay for it, you can do it as long as it approved by your local ordnance (if they have one).
You can also hire another contractor besides Edison to make the drop.
I know someone on 29 mile that has a ton of Machines in his barn. He had to install one of those big green transformers on his property for a 1000 amp 3 phase drop.
 
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