2012 SRT8 Charger, yup its still ugly

i agree, i'm not into the new ones so much. i don't so much agree with the materials being sub-par. they're still a hell of a lot better than what you find if you go to a chrysler dealership today. but you are right, we'll have to see what the final outcome is.
 
lucky7 said:
i agree, i'm not into the new ones so much. i don't so much agree with the materials being sub-par. they're still a hell of a lot better than what you find if you go to a chrysler dealership today. but you are right, we'll have to see what the final outcome is.
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Buy an E46 and then tell me the materials arent sub-par :lol:
 
I am not a fan of any Dodge products. But I don't think it's ugly. It's gonna take some time to grow on people, like anything. I hated the 99-04 Mustangs, ugliest thing I ever saw, but now I own one because I like them. :lol:

I do not dig the spoiler that much on the new Charger. Something flush like the 05-11 Mustang "ducktail" spoiler would be better.
 
Roadrage said:
Buy an E46 and then tell me the materials arent sub-par :lol:
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respectively, i think they're still better than most. a good friend has 2 of them. :) it's not my preference (aside from the M3), but what can i say? i've owned 2 E30's, and i hope to own more. i have no interest in the E36, E46, E9X, etc. unless they're M models. :D
 
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I like it
 
Roadrage said:
You are basing all that on speculation that the car will handle like a pig. Until it's tested, no one knows how it will handle.
Once the ZF transmissions are geared up for Chrysler, I think they will have a very solid car....and after owning a "newer" BMW, I will never buy into how great they are. They make everything on the car from plastic to keep weight down, and they use the most craptastic plastic ever. I have never seen so many parts fail on a car. I mean seriously, the grilles on these cars fall out constantly. Cooling system has to be completely replaced every 50-60k. Trunk lift lip rips off the cars with normal use. Tail light wiring melts from using the smallest gauge wires they could find. Vanos unit(valve timing) need rebuilt because BMW used the cheapest gasket they could find. Just garbage.
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Would it be ok to speculate that it will shit the trans out under warrenty, have electrical issues, and have the rear end give out by 80k miles?.. thats seams to be the chrysler way.

I think id rather have a car where the grille falls out then one that always need major repair. My parents have had 3 NEW chryslers back to back to back, and they are all a huge pile of shit.
 
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347convert said:
Would it be ok to speculate that it will shit the trans out under warrenty, have electrical issues, and have the rear end give out by 80k miles?.. thats seams to be the chrysler way.

I think id rather have a car where the grille falls out then one that always need major repair. My parents have had 3 NEW chryslers back to back to back, and they are all a huge pile of shit.
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If it was just grilles, it wouldnt be an issue. I pointed out a lot more than just grilles, and left out some major ones...like the rear subframes removing themselves from the car, or the problems with the engine block threads for the cylinder head giving out (which is not repairable).

I also pointed out that once Chrysler is using the ZF trans, it would be a solid car...because I know Chrysler has junk transmissions.
Besides trans issues and front end part wear, I havent heard many people complain about other issues.
 
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sub frames were an early E46 thing. that part i do know about. pissing match aside, i know which one i'd buy. :)
 
lucky7 said:
sub frames were an early E46 thing. that part i do know about. pissing match aside, i know which one i'd buy. :)
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I don't know if i would call it a pissing match, I am just pointing out that all cars have issues, no matter how big of a fanboy someone is. If i owned a Charger and it had all the issues I have seen from the E46, I would be posting those too.

As far as the subframe being an early E46 issue, it doesnt change the fact that it happened, and BMW had to be sued to fix them.
 
It looks cool, but why are all the car companies making the front ends of their vehicles look so big? Not liking that.
 
347convert said:
Would it be ok to speculate that it will shit the trans out under warrenty, have electrical issues, and have the rear end give out by 80k miles?.. thats seams to be the chrysler way.

I think id rather have a car where the grille falls out then one that always need major repair. My parents have had 3 NEW chryslers back to back to back, and they are all a huge pile of shit.
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How much experance do you have with the NAG1 trans. Yes the almost 500HP of the new eagle 6.4l Srt hemi is impressive (465 were the Dyno number I was looking at). But the Nag is a tough trans. These dont break even when in a overloaded sprinter. Now the rear end may be in trouble if it ever hooks up!
 
Krazy-K said:
How much experance do you have with the NAG1 trans. Yes the almost 500HP of the new eagle 6.4l Srt hemi is impressive (465 were the Dyno number I was looking at). But the Nag is a tough trans. These dont break even when in a overloaded sprinter. Now the rear end may be in trouble if it ever hooks up!
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I know zero about that trans, I just happen to know the history of the last 30 years of chrysler transmissions. Id be happy that they finally stepped up and stiffened some stuff up.
 
347convert said:
I know zero about that trans, I just happen to know the history of the last 30 years of chrysler transmissions. Id be happy that they finally stepped up and stiffened some stuff up.
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Chrysler can't take all the credit for the the nag1 trans. Stolen from dimeler. But it works. The alternative is a T56 with getrag gears. The cars drive nice and do move out well. The apperance is subjective some like some hate,It happens. thinking its a 4 door famley car that will run in the high 12's stock I think its a nice piece. Yes its big and not really a sports car. But fun trust me.
 
Roadrage said:
I don't know if i would call it a pissing match, I am just pointing out that all cars have issues, no matter how big of a fanboy someone is. If i owned a Charger and it had all the issues I have seen from the E46, I would be posting those too.

As far as the subframe being an early E46 issue, it doesnt change the fact that it happened, and BMW had to be sued to fix them.
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i'll agree with all that.
 
I thought I loved the red until I saw the gray one posted above. Good lord that is a bad ass sedan.
 
the front looks better with the darker color, but the boomerang someone taped to the side still looks beyond terrible. :lol:
 
looks like someone stuck a corn cob in its butt! :0

I had a 2008 srt 8 LOVED the SPEED, hated the ride, FELT every seam in the road.
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Like the front end of mine better than the new one.
 
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